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    Cops can be good guys.

    A lot of folks here spend most of their efforts on this site implying, trying to prove, or flat-out stating that all cops are rights-violating thugs. Any rational person knows that such a generalization logically MUST be false. The problem is that we only see posted the bad things that cops do. That jades many of us, much in the same way that cops, routinely dealing with bad guys, often become jaded and see only bad guys. Let's don't fall into that trap.

    Grapeshot posted a video in another thread of a cop being killed doing the right thing. That gave me the idea for this thread.

    So, anyway, the purpose of this thread is very narrow: To post articles, videos, recollections, etc. of LEO doing the right thing, just to balance out the tendency on this site to focus only the them doing the wrong thing.

    This thread is decidedly NOT for bashing of any individual cop or posting any account of any cop doing anything wrong. It is especially not intended to be for bashing LEO/LEA in general. It is also not intended to be a discussion of any kind. I will report this post to the staff, asking them to help monitor this thread and delete anything that is not very narrowly a cop-doing-the-right-thing post, so please do not try to corrupt this thread. If you are looking to post anything else here, please start your own thread.

    GS, would you like to get things started by reposting the video from the other thread? Also, are you willing to help maintain the integrity of this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
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    GS, would you like to get things started by reposting the video from the other thread? Also, are you willing to help maintain the integrity of this thread?
    Don't recall a video being posted, but there are likely several related.

    VSP Trooper stopped to help a motorist and paid for that kindness with his lfe.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2013/03/funeral-set-slain-virginia-state-trooper


    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-07/local/37535046_1_virginia-state-police-patrol-car-police-officer



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    Oops, article, not video.

    Anyway, your links don't work. I cut and pasted the link that did from the other thread.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2013/03/fune...-state-trooper

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    I await, with eager anticipation, the posts on this thread. My position on thug cops acting like Stormtroopers is well known. But to start things off for my friends eye and Grape, let me call out Sheriff Terry Maketa of El Paso County. He is a staunch supporter of our 2A rights, tirelessly fought the democrap vermin in denver over their anti-freedom gun laws which they rammed through the legislature for the desk of governor chickenlooper, and leads a fine, professional force of honest, dedicated LEOs. He takes his oath seriously and will accept nothing less from his deputies. We are privileged to have a man like Terry running our Sheriff's Office.
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    Grapeshot's article reminded me of an officer who died here recently. If you want to see folks reacting to a beloved police officer, google David Yaney. He was recently killed (not in the line of duty), and the outpouring of grief in the entire Miami Valley was astounding.

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    Sheriff J.D. "Danny" Diggs - Yorktown/Poquoson, Va.

    Arguably the best Sheriif in the state, strong proponent of RKBA, works to get rid of "feel good" laws, insists that his deputies honor their oath.

    Has attended numerous OC dinners with his family.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/j-d-%22d...iggs/17/37/302
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    Is it permissible to identify LEAs whose officers obviously note my OCed firearm and did absolutely nothing other than notice and continue about their business. I have commended my local LEA for their officers "complete lack on interest" in a citizen going about has daily business. This I believe is the goal that we all seek.
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    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Is it permissible to identify LEAs whose officers obviously note my OCed firearm and did absolutely nothing other than notice and continue about their business. I have commended my local LEA for their officers "complete lack on interest" in a citizen going about has daily business. This I believe is the goal that we all seek.
    IMHO - on a smaller scale that would seem to fit the idea - best when the LEA and the officer identified though.
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    Sheriff Richard Mack Comes to mind.

    Also I would like to mention the Oath Keepers group, and LEAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    IMHO - on a smaller scale that would seem to fit the idea - best when the LEA and the officer identified though.
    I agree. Though it would be difficult to ID a individual officer in the circumstance I postulate where he is going about his business. I will include the officer if I am able to ID him.
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    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Cops can be good guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Is it permissible to identify LEAs whose officers obviously note my OCed firearm and did absolutely nothing other than notice and continue about their business. I have commended my local LEA for their officers "complete lack on interest" in a citizen going about has daily business. This I believe is the goal that we all seek.
    My third interaction with a Montgomery PD officer demonstrated that that PD now more fully respects the right to carry. I wish I could remember the officer's name, but he was called because of a couple of MWAGs at the Starbuck's in Eastchase. He did a look-see (reasonable), approached us consensually (reasonable), then took his break and joined us for coffee and a chat (commendable and friendly).

    Of course, mentioning OC-compatible LEAs fits in with the theme of the thread, but don't feel restricted to OC. This is in the Social Lounge. Any and all positive examples of LEAs and LEOs are welcome.


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    Here is a video of a sherif speaking for the 2A. Hope this is what your looking for.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofwNsVf582w

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    Oh and here is on with a bad cop that gets pulled over for doing 120MPH on the highway by a good cop that is not very happy


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4u3okjJugo

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    Not necessarily "looking" for anything. I would ask folks to think outside the box. This is the Social Lounge. It doesn't have to be about guns at all.

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    No humor from Grape. On topic.

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    Police Officer Saves Baby, Then Stops Bank Robbery

    http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_20...-infant-before
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    This is one of the better videos I have seen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-G8k...layer_embedded

    Why can't all peace officers be just like this guy? This man is a role model in my book, and many officers would do themselves a service by taking notes of this officer's actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    So far, my interactions with local cops are running about fourteen negative to three or four positive/neutral.

    Separately, just because a cop ignores me doesn't mean he's a good cop; it can mean we've caused enough headaches that he decided to leave OCers alone because we can bite back, not because he's a good guy.
    Or, it could mean that he is a good cop because he did ignore you. Unless you initiate a consensual encounter with him you (we) will never know.
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    I've had mostly positive encounters with our State Troopers. Specifically would like to Mention Officer Thompson, who didn't let my OC bother him after a bad crash, and is the one who removed my weapon and told me how to get it back when they were putting me into the ambulance. He asked if I had a CPL , I told him somewhere in the vehicle, he said "that's Ok you are Open Carrying anyway".


    They also refused to do anything about the complaints of the anti gunners when they were trying to ban assault weapons and a group of our state OC'ers showed up to the legislature buildings to oppose the bills.
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    Restating the conditions for posting to this thread

    This thread is decidedly NOT for bashing of any individual cop or posting any account of any cop doing anything wrong. It is especially not intended to be for bashing LEO/LEA in general. It is also not intended to be a discussion of any kind. I will report this post to the staff, asking them to help monitor this thread and delete anything that is not very narrowly a cop-doing-the-right-thing post, so please do not try to corrupt this thread. If you are looking to post anything else here, please start your own thread.

    List, report, or link incidents of "Cops can be good guys"

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    Radley (famously skeptical of LEO integrity) and I (a Dallas resident of 17+ years with, perhaps, even more skepticism of LEOs than Radley) are in agreement that Craig Watkins is doing excellent things in Dallas. Here's Radley's "Best Prosecutor of 2007" post. Watkins has become embroiled in what I suspect is a frivolous, retaliatory accusation by a guy with a widely-held reputation of being a complete sleazebag. I suspect Watkins has also done things in his career that I don't approve of. Regardless, the amount of good he has perpetrated and supported in Dallas since becoming District Attorney earns him high regard from me. I wonder if his implicit indictments of Dallas prosecutors, who are disproportionately associated with real estate moguls in Dallas, is part of this nonsense he's currently facing.

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    Cops can be good guys.

    "A San Diego police officer who was killed in the line of duty is being remembered for his good deeds."

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...ate&id=8314141

    "Henwood buys the boy cookies along with a meal for himself, all the while talking to the boy."

    http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2011/au...final-moments/

    Killed after talking to a kid about what he wanted to be when he grew up and encouraged the kid to work hard. Bought cookies and parted ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    "A San Diego police officer who was killed in the line of duty is being remembered for his good deeds."

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...ate&id=8314141

    "Henwood buys the boy cookies along with a meal for himself, all the while talking to the boy."

    http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2011/au...final-moments/

    Killed after talking to a kid about what he wanted to be when he grew up and encouraged the kid to work hard. Bought cookies and parted ways.
    That is indeed the same LEO that Freedom1Man's video shows in post #26 - That officer was a real genuine, stand up guy.
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    Cops can be good guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    That is indeed the same LEO that Freedom1Man's video shows in post #26 - That officer was a real genuine, stand up guy.
    And I really hope that kid does well after a brief encounter with a guy who really cared.

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