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    Exclamation House Fires and Stored Ammunition - A Danger to Firefighters?

    Dear Fellow Second Amendment Lovers:

    The anti-gun zealots try to use "community safety" as an excuse to create local ordinances that ban guns or ammunition. There is a "myth" out there that firefighters need to be terrified of citizens who own firearms and ammunition because if the house caught fire, the neighborhood would go up in a huge explosion. This myth is debunked in the video I have attached a link to. This video, endorsed by the Association of Fire Chiefs, records clear science-based evidence of the effect of fire on stored ammunition.

    Please keep in mind that ammunition that is chambered in a firearm will "go off" in a fire and the projectile will have full ballistic force. This makes sense as the chamber directs the energy.

    The video is a bit long, but worth the watching. When watching, keep in mind that the video producers take care to point out that their experiments involved civilian sporting ammunition and not military ammunition. The viewer should keep in mind that while they both have the same dimensions, the 5.56 X 45 mm NATO round has much higher head pressures than the SAAMI .223 Civilian round. (The NATO round has a thicker case, but has approximately 20,000 psi greater head pressure.)

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlO...layer_embedded

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    Just a guess, but I'd say that what happens to ammo in a fire in Utah is the same thing that happens to ammo in a fire in Wisconsin.

    (But, yes, it IS an educational vid. )
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    They can be dangerous in the right circumstance though.

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Bullet-...137021548.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpm84092 View Post
    Dear Fellow Second Amendment Lovers:

    The anti-gun zealots try to use "community safety" as an excuse to create local ordinances that ban guns or ammunition. There is a "myth" out there that firefighters need to be terrified of citizens who own firearms and ammunition because if the house caught fire, the neighborhood would go up in a huge explosion. This myth is debunked in the video I have attached a link to. This video, endorsed by the Association of Fire Chiefs, records clear science-based evidence of the effect of fire on stored ammunition.

    Please keep in mind that ammunition that is chambered in a firearm will "go off" in a fire and the projectile will have full ballistic force. This makes sense as the chamber directs the energy.

    The video is a bit long, but worth the watching

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlO...layer_embedded

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    Yes. Is the danger as severe as some would postulate? Different question with no "one size fits all" answer.

    http://www.apd.army.mil/jw2/xmldemo/p385_64/main.asp

    Go to reliable source of ammunition and fire safety procedures. The military has learned from past incidents where fire and ammo are concerned.
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