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    Why do we vote for an Attorney General, when they do not report to the voter?

    I am not sure about the rest of the states, but we in Texas vote for the AG, even though him/her is not required to respond to a legal question.

    I called the AG in Texas today and asked this question, and was hung up on.....not put on hold....hung up.

    USAG, hang on to yur a@@ Holder was not elected....why are the states different?

    Just venting, but this is indeed BS.....I vote for those that represent me....not the idiots that get elected, even if i voted for an idiot....

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    A bit of a stretch. Try the Categorical Imperative as "What if everybody did it?"

    Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law. Kant, Immanuel; translated by James W. Ellington [1785] (1993). Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals 3rd ed.. Hackett. pp. 30.
    While I too wish otherwise, the AG is not our personal legal consultant. Response is usually legally limited to not mere constituents.

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    I realize that he is not our attorney.....which brings me back to the questions.....why do we "VOTE" for him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    I realize that he is not our attorney.....which brings me back to the questions.....why do we "VOTE" for him?
    For the the principle of republicanism, that we know his personal principles - actions - best and better than the governor. We vote for who upholds principles we would advance. That's why we US have the government that we deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    I realize that he is not our attorney.....which brings me back to the questions.....why do we "VOTE" for him?
    He actually IS your attny.

    He will represent you against businesses. Most AGs will contact businesses who did you wrong on your behalf .. ie YOUR attorney...if you file a complaint with his office.

    That's his job ... to represent you and the state.

    So, you called him up and asked why his position existed and why he is an elected official? Click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    He actually IS your attny.

    He will represent you against businesses. Most AGs will contact businesses who did you wrong on your behalf .. ie YOUR attorney...if you file a complaint with his office.

    That's his job ... to represent you and the state.

    So, you called him up and asked why his position existed and why he is an elected official? Click.
    Well, yes, sort of. The AG will represent a class composed of all the citizens of the State against businesses that engage in improper behavior towards customers within the State, and will represent the State in complaints against state executive branch agencies, as well as the State as a whole in issues involving/effecting not only your state but some/many/all other states - such as amici briefs at the various federal court levels.

    But none of that answers the OP's question. May I have the envelope please? ::sound of envelope being torn open, sheet of paper being withdrawn and waved with a flousish before being read::

    The AG is one of the state-level constitutional officers. Thus, they are elected, as opposed to being either appointed or just walking in off the street and sitting in the big chair. (Those are the only two possible alternative means of becoming AG, since we eliminated heriditary offices.)

    No offense to the OP, but --- [begin skidmark biolerplate rant #4.b] why are schools no longer teaching basic civics? Besides knowing Latin, Greek and how many rods in a furlong (do not get me started on the bushels per hectare thing), we had to know how the government was supposed to run before they would let us out into the world with a diploma saying we were edjumicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Well, yes, sort of. The AG will represent a class composed of all the citizens of the State against businesses that engage in improper behavior towards customers within the State, and will represent the State in complaints against state executive branch agencies, as well as the State as a whole in issues involving/effecting not only your state but some/many/all other states - such as amici briefs at the various federal court levels.

    But none of that answers the OP's question. May I have the envelope please? ::sound of envelope being torn open, sheet of paper being withdrawn and waved with a flousish before being read::

    The AG is one of the state-level constitutional officers. Thus, they are elected, as opposed to being either appointed or just walking in off the street and sitting in the big chair. (Those are the only two possible alternative means of becoming AG, since we eliminated heriditary offices.)

    No offense to the OP, but --- [begin skidmark biolerplate rant #4.b] why are schools no longer teaching basic civics? Besides knowing Latin, Greek and how many rods in a furlong (do not get me started on the bushels per hectare thing), we had to know how the government was supposed to run before they would let us out into the world with a diploma saying we were edjumicated.

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    Fair enough...then why can't we vote for the AG of the US?

    If he represents the "STATE" and not the people, then he should be appointed.....JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    Fair enough...then why can't we vote for the AG og the US?
    Cause its an appointed position ... best answer I can give ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Cause its an appointed position ... best answer I can give ...
    Because the USAG is a Cabinet position - a flunky of POTUS as opposed to a Constitutional Officer in most of the States. Only three states, plus D.C., appoint their Attorney General. See http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/rpt/2003-R-0231.htm (figures Connecticutt would be one of them )

    Half a point deduction to davidmcbeth for failing to explain the Cabinet nature of the position. (Yeah, a mere technical bagatelle.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Because the USAG is a Cabinet position - a flunky of POTUS as opposed to a Constitutional Officer in most of the States. Only three states, plus D.C., appoint their Attorney General. See http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/rpt/2003-R-0231.htm (figures Connecticutt would be one of them )

    Half a point deduction to davidmcbeth for failing to explain the Cabinet nature of the position. (Yeah, a mere technical bagatelle.)

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    But I killed Nagini ... I think that should get me some points .... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    But I killed Nagini ... I think that should get me some points .... lol
    Attaboys do not carry over past your most recent "Aw, snap!"

    Given your track record for digging yourself into holes I expect that you are almost through the second or third full time on Rosetta Stone's Mandarin for Dummies.

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