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    Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell's gun ban plan 'just not going anywhere'


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt8261 View Post
    Poor King George.
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    I used to live in GR and of all the things the city's administration should be worrying about, legally carried guns is not one of them.
    The only terrorists I see nowadays are at the Capital.


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    Re: Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell's gun ban plan 'just not going anywhere'

    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    Poor King George.
    You nailed it! This is not about safety, never has been. It is about control! " how dare the piss-ants bring an equallizer into to my castle!" Seriously who do these people think they are fooling? You have a greater chance of being struck by lightening than being shot by a "lawfully" carried firearm by a citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    You nailed it! This is not about safety, never has been. It is about control! " how dare the piss-ants bring an equallizer into to my castle!" Seriously who do these people think they are fooling? You have a greater chance of being struck by lightening than being shot by a "lawfully" carried firearm by a citizen.
    Maybe, but there seem to be a lot of antis saying "I own a gun but...". I think if they are anywhere carrying their firearm... perhaps hunting or target shooting... I don't want to be anywhere near them.
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    Re: Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell's gun ban plan 'just not going anywhere'

    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Maybe, but there seem to be a lot of antis saying "I own a gun but...". I think if they are anywhere carrying their firearm... perhaps hunting or target shooting... I don't want to be anywhere near them.
    I " feel" likewise, even though I know statistically I am still safer near these mental midgets than I am in a CRIME EMPOWERMENT ZONE.
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    Next, he'll have his stormtroopers shaking down innocent people on the street, like his hero, Bloomberg.
    'If the people are not ready for the exercise of the non-violence of the brave, they must be ready for the use of force in self defense. There should be no camouflage.....it must never be secret.' MK Gandhi II-146 (Gandhi on Non-Violence)-- Gandhi supports open carry!

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    Re: Grand Rapids Mayor George Heartwell's gun ban plan 'just not going anywhere'

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Bear View Post
    Next, he'll have his stormtroopers shaking down innocent people on the street, like his hero, Bloomberg.
    I thought this WAS the current policy.
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

    "Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." -Saint Augustine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    I thought this WAS the current policy.
    Depends on attire
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Bear View Post
    like his hero, Bloomberg.



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