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    Any of you fine people live on the border with DC?

    NC resident, planning a trip to DC. Is my best option to find a hotel in Arlington that has a safe?

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    I have been down that road and have yet to find a hotel in Arlington that will LET you place a gun in their safe. some hotels have in room safes...and you can easily get past that (they are not that challenging, usually). I've found success with a hotel that has a kitchen - like a Residence Inn...put it into the dishwasher, cover with one of the pots or pans. Remember not to run dishwasher.

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    Why not consider motels, too. I'm sure there are some that have in room safes for your convenience. And you could broaden your scope into Fairfax County to increase your number of places to stay.
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    Lck the firearm in your car trunk. Take the Metro into DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDT COX View Post
    NC resident, planning a trip to DC. Is my best option to find a hotel in Arlington that has a safe?
    Arlington or Alexandria, stay in Virginia we like guys like you with guns. We wish we had more, want to move here ?

    Also Mace ,pepper spray, stun guns and tazers are illegal in DC, but don't worry most of the felons on the DC police department have been fired. All it took was one murdering someone in a drug deal.

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    If someone is burglarizing your room in a hotel or motel, they will look in all of the hiding spots, because that is where people hide their drugs. There are some options that might be better in locations where there is a public presence. Such as Bus Station lockers, bowling alley lockers, or health club lockers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 92fan View Post
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    Also Mace ,pepper spray, stun guns and tazers are illegal in DC, but don't worry most of the felons on the DC police department have been fired. All it took was one murdering someone in a drug deal.
    Here is the actual DC law (from the DC Code link at http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/ ) :
    § 7-2501.01. Definitions.
    As used in this unit the term:


    (7) "Destructive device" means:
    ...
    (C) Any device containing tear gas or a chemically similar lacrimator or sternutator by whatever name known;


    § 7-2502.12.Definition of self-defense spray.
    For the purposes of §§ 7-2502.12 through 7-2502.14, the term:
    "Self-defense spray" means a mixture of a lacrimator including chloroacetophenone, alphacloracetophenone, phenylchloromethylketone, orthochlorobenazalm-alononitrile or oleoresin capsicum.


    § 7-2502.13. Possession of self-defense sprays.

    (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of § 7-2501.01(7)(C), a person 18 years of age or older may possess and use a self-defense spray in the exercise of reasonable force in defense of the person or the person's property only if it is propelled from an aerosol container, labeled with or accompanied by clearly written instructions as to its use, and dated to indicate its anticipated useful life.

    (b) No person shall possess a self-defense spray which is of a type other than that specified in §§ 7-2502.12 to 7-2502.14.

    § 7-2502.14. Registration of self-defense
    (a) A person 18 years of age or older must register the self-defense spray at the time of purchase by completing a standard registration form.
    (b) The vendor must forward the registration form to the Metropolitan Police Department.

    And the penalties:

    § 7-2507.06. Penalties.


    Any person convicted of a violation of any provision of this unit shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than 1 year, or both; except that:

    (1) A person who knowingly or intentionally sells, transfers, or distributes a firearm, destructive device, or ammunition to a person under 18 years of age shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.

    (2)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B) of this paragraph, any person who is convicted a second time for possessing an unregistered firearm shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

    (B) A person who in the person's dwelling place, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, possesses a pistol, or firearm that could otherwise be registered, shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

    (3) A person convicted of knowingly possessing restricted pistol bullets (K-Rom: handgun ammo capable of penetrating 18 layers of kevlar) in violation of § 7-2506.01(3) may be sentenced to imprisonment for a term not to exceed 10 years and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for a mandatory-minimum term of not less than 1 year and shall not be released from prison or granted probation or suspension of sentence prior to serving the mandatory-minimum sentence, and, in addition, may be fined an amount not to exceed $10,000.


    --If a citizen of the District of Columbia purchases a Pepper Spray device from a vendor located in the District of Columbia, form PD-102 IS required to be filled out and the vendor forwards the completed form to the DC Metropolitan Police Department Gun Control Unit located at 300 Indiana Ave. NW, Room 3077 Washington, DC.

    Forms should be available at the various police districts but if not, they are available at the Gun Control Unit--
    However, if a citizen purchases the Pepper Spray device outside of the District of Columbia or via the internet from a vendor outside of the District of Columbia NO registration form is required.
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    So it seems like locked in the trunk of car is a better option. We were hoping to drive into the city and park then walk, so that was why I wanted to leave it in the hotel. I haven't been to DC in a couple of years but will look op the metro options to Arlington and Alexandria.

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    I'm not "right on the border" but am only about 4.5 miles from the Huntingdon Metro station. Near that Metro station (within a mile) are some very new hotels - a Holiday Inn Express & Suites, Hampton Inn, Springhill Suites, and a few others (look at the intersection of I95 and US1). I'm pretty sure all 3 offer shuttle to metro, so you could lock it in your room if you chose. Or we could arrange for me to hold it, if you don't want it locked in your car or hotel.

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    Any of you fine people live on the border with DC?

    I am in Alexandria near the van dorn metro. I could also offer storage if needed.

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    A recent article in the Washington Times that sort of relates to this topic:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...gun-penalties/

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    The District of Columbia’s city council voted unanimously on Tuesday to decriminalize inadvertently violating the city’s unique gun laws. The liberal council surprisingly moved forward with the schedule vote, despite the national calls for more gun-control laws in the wake of the tragic Sandy Hook Elementary mass murder Friday in Newtown, Conn.

    The new law gives the prosecutor the option of using administrative disposition for unregistered firearm or unregistered ammunition offenses. A violator would be then be given a fine (to be determined by the court) but no criminal record. This only applies to people who aren’t charged with another crime during the same event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    I'm not "right on the border" but am only about 4.5 miles from the Huntingdon Metro station. Near that Metro station (within a mile) are some very new hotels - a Holiday Inn Express & Suites, Hampton Inn, Springhill Suites, and a few others (look at the intersection of I95 and US1). I'm pretty sure all 3 offer shuttle to metro, so you could lock it in your room if you chose. Or we could arrange for me to hold it, if you don't want it locked in your car or hotel.
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    I am in Alexandria near the van dorn metro. I could also offer storage if needed.
    OC.org is such a great community! Are there any ranges or do you guys have places to shoot on Sundays? Lets have a get together put rounds down range if possible!

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    Doing DC

    1. Get a room in Virginia on the Metro
    2. Use the Metro to go into DC. It is safe - asuming you are using the tourist areas on Federal Property.
    3. Eat and do night life in VA.
    4. Lock the gun in your car - not under the seat, glove box, or console. If you do not have one now, get a box and secure it to the passenger side seat that will hold you locked weapon.
    5. If you get an extra box cable, you can secure the box to something unmoveable in the hotel room.
    6. When you go out to eat, if you want to drink at the same time, you must carry open.


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    Fiance wants to see the sights/Smithsonians and we want to catch a ball game

    Have any recommendations for a good steak in the city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDT COX View Post
    Fiance wants to see the sights/Smithsonians and we want to catch a ball game

    Have any recommendations for a good steak in the city?

    While preserving the domestic tranquility may be high on your list of priorities, if you stay (and dine) in Virginia, you'll also not be paying a 10% meal tax to a (DC) government that wants you disarmed for its convenience.


    We in the northern Virginia area are fortunate to have several ranges. If you've never been, you might find it interesting to visit the NRA range, and its museum as well. There is a range a few miles from the Franconia/Springfield Metro station (www.sharpshootersva.com). Others include Blue Ridge Arsenal, Silver Eagle Group, though you're traveling further and further.

    If you have time for a meetup while you're in the area, give a date and I'll set up an Open Carry dinner somewhere in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHF View Post

    1. Get a room in Virginia on the Metro
    2. Use the Metro to go into DC. It is safe - asuming you are using the tourist areas on Federal Property.
    3. Eat and do night life in VA.
    4. Lock the gun in your car - not under the seat, glove box, or console. If you do not have one now, get a box and secure it to the passenger side seat that will hold you locked weapon.
    5. If you get an extra box cable, you can secure the box to something unmoveable in the hotel room.
    6. When you go out to eat, if you want to drink at the same time, you must carry open.


    While specifically true, #6 is something we of the OC persuasion in the area strongly discourage. If you carry concealed in a restaurant, you may not drink adult beverages. While open carrying, you can (legally), but it tends to be frowned upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDT COX View Post
    OC.org is such a great community! Are there any ranges or do you guys have places to shoot on Sundays? Lets have a get together put rounds down range if possible!
    +1 on the indoor range at NRA HQ in Fairfax. NRA members get a break on the range fees, first-timers must take the safety briefing.
    Weekends are the busiest.

    http://nrahqrange.nra.org/


    Also you don't need a concealed handgun permit to keep a handgun in your glovebox or center console while in Va.

    § 18.2-308.B.10. Any person who may lawfully possess a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

    Check out the discussion at:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...rmit%29-STICKY

    Enjoy your visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Here is the actual DC law (from the DC Code link at[COLOR=#cc8800] http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/ ) :

    § 7-2502.14. Registration of self-defense
    (a) A person 18 years of age or older must register the self-defense spray at the time of purchase by completing a standard registration form.
    (b) The vendor must forward the registration form to the Metropolitan Police Department.


    --If a citizen of the District of Columbia purchases a Pepper Spray device from a vendor located in the District of Columbia, form PD-102 IS required to be filled out and the vendor forwards the completed form to the DC Metropolitan Police Department Gun Control Unit located at 300 Indiana Ave. NW, Room 3077 Washington, DC.

    Forms should be available at the various police districts but if not, they are available at the Gun Control Unit--
    However, if a citizen purchases the Pepper Spray device outside of the District of Columbia or via the internet from a vendor outside of the District of Columbia NO registration form is required.
    what good is this section? why have a registration and a penalty for a city resident when registration is not necessary if bought elsewhere? why only city residents, not everybody, is/are subjected to this section? totally useless and will likely be misunderstood/misinterpreted by the jbt's on patrol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDT COX View Post
    Have any recommendations for a good steak in the city?
    If you want one of the best steaks you'll ever have for a decent price (and in a place where you can still carry) try Ray's the Steaks, near the Courthouse Metro in Arlington.
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    Ruth's Chris in Crystal City.

    Capital Grill in DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson_Muntz View Post
    what good is this section? why have a registration and a penalty for a city resident when registration is not necessary if bought elsewhere? why only city residents, not everybody, is/are subjected to this section? totally useless and will likely be misunderstood/misinterpreted by the jbt's on patrol.
    Really???? Since I don't write the stupid laws in DC I have no idea. However, you are free to call the A hole that runs the place and complain to him as much as you like. I merely posted a cite to someone's false claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grylnsmn View Post
    If you want one of the best steaks you'll ever have for a decent price (and in a place where you can still carry) try Ray's the Steaks, near the Courthouse Metro in Arlington.
    Quote Originally Posted by swinokur View Post
    Ruth's Chris in Crystal City.

    Capital Grill in DC.
    Going to Ruth's Chris the 22nd. Plan is to head up to DC the morning of the 26th. Capital Grill looks great as well as Ray's. Both have dry aged beef which is what I am after.

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    Thumbs up Friday night, the Nats play the Reds

    I'd METRO to the park. It's not that hard to get to. Go early, and spend soe time drinking beer at the Half Street Fairgrounds (live music) then get in the park early to go to the Miller Light Scoreboard walk for $5.00 beers.

    If you want cheaper tickets, go to Nationals.com, look at the Schedules and see the promotions for that night. They got a special for a ticket, burger, fries and soda for $20 or $29, depending on where you want to sit.

    There are NO bad seats in that park!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt800c View Post
    I'd METRO to the park. It's not that hard to get to. Go early, and spend soe time drinking beer at the Half Street Fairgrounds (live music) then get in the park early to go to the Miller Light Scoreboard walk for $5.00 beers.

    If you want cheaper tickets, go to Nationals.com, look at the Schedules and see the promotions for that night. They got a special for a ticket, burger, fries and soda for $20 or $29, depending on where you want to sit.

    There are NO bad seats in that park!

    Enjoy your visit, enjoy the game and GO NATS!
    I went that first season it was open, great ball park. I remember everything being pricey so I'm prepared for that haha

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    live in FFX(right across from the NRA building), and work in alexandria.

    check for hotels around the federal court house. there are some higher hotels in old town alexandria and a bed and breakfeast or two also.

    there are ALOT of hotels in fairfax but it's alil bit more of a hassle driving into DC. i would also suggest metro'ing it in. i HATE DRIVING in the NOVA area and driving into dc and finding parking SUCKS.

    if you do want to drive there is/was a lot right next to the bureau of engraving and the maine street fish market thats was $8 for the day(might be $10 now)

    i recommend resturant eve in old town alexandria for steaks and anything else, my brother was a chef in there before he moved out to san fran to work a benu.

    i'll second the rays steak comment from earlier also.

    when going to ruth chris in crystal city make sure you get a table at a window, the view of the DC skyline is pretty nice(even thou its of the ghetto part of DC lol)

    i'm pretty sure you can rent a locker at blueridge where you can stash your pistol. i'll swing by tonight and ask for ya.

    if i wasn't planning on having the jeep doorless and topless i would say you could stash it at my shop while im working.

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