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    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.
    file a records request ... find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.
    Just thinking aloud peter, could one of them be in training ? I saw the commercial vehicle enforcement state trooper on Thursday morning with a truck pulled over just outside Green Bay on 460 when I was on my way back from Charlotte CH. He was on his own as always

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    Two troopers is too troopers.

    (Not really. I'm just on my second scotch, and it sounded cool. Too troopers, too troopers, too troopers! Say it tree times fash.)

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    Originally Posted by peter nap

    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.
    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    file a records request ... find out
    Indeed - inquiring minds want to know.
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    Two Troopers

    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.
    Standing to the rear right is the best observer position that does not create a crossfire situation. The second officer can shoot at a 45 degree angle at the driver or down into the backseat of the car.

    As for the BDU bandit, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back.

    I thought it was because of the trooper that was killed and it may be, but who is the GI Joe?
    Is it a State Trooper or Homeland Security?

    It's OC related because the second one is really working the rear windows over I assume looking for guns.
    have one of those 7000 DHS fully automatic M4 "personal Defense Weapon" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by va_tazdad View Post
    have one of those 7000 DHS fully automatic M4 "personal Defense Weapon" ?
    DHS is there for your safety. Don't be so critical of the state protection force.

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    Well if it's HLD ask if you can buy some . 40 off him. I hear they bought 1.6 billion rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92fan View Post
    Well if it's HLD ask if you can buy some . 40 off him. I hear they bought 1.6 billion rounds.
    pffft .. peter nap uses an entire .40 round as just the primer for his reloads

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92fan View Post
    Well if it's HLD ask if you can buy some . 40 off him. I hear they bought 1.6 billion rounds.
    Got plenty of 40's. I use them in my 10 mm for plinking rounds. I use the 10 for small game I don't want to destroy much meat

    The uniform is what's bothering me and I've seen this several times lately in different counties.
    I am going to FOIA it as soon as I figure what to ask for and if it is Homeland....I'm going to spend some time with the camera. That crap isn't going to happen here.

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    My guess would be a commercial weight officer..... I don't know if they have that program in VA, but in Washington the state patrol has state troopers, who are fully commisioned peace officers, and commercial weight officers who deal with commercial vehicle inspections, weigh stations etc. but CVEOs do part of their training with the state troopers by riding along with troopers, also in WA CVEOs on duty wear a black jumpsuit that looks somewhat like BDUs becuase part of their job involves crawling under trucks and trailers and a conventional police uniform would get stained or damaged while doing that kind of work.

    that's my guess..... what I would assume seeing myself...

    but do find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    My guess would be a commercial weight officer..... I don't know if they have that program in VA, but in Washington the state patrol has state troopers, who are fully commisioned peace officers, and commercial weight officers who deal with commercial vehicle inspections, weigh stations etc. but CVEOs do part of their training with the state troopers by riding along with troopers, also in WA CVEOs on duty wear a black jumpsuit that looks somewhat like BDUs becuase part of their job involves crawling under trucks and trailers and a conventional police uniform would get stained or damaged while doing that kind of work.

    that's my guess..... what I would assume seeing myself...

    but do find out.
    Here we have the Enforcement Division of the SCC. I used to work for the SCC.
    These were individual cars being pulled, not commercial vehicles. Maybe I'll see one today and get a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Got plenty of 40's. I use them in my 10 mm for plinking rounds. I use the 10 for small game I don't want to destroy much meat

    The uniform is what's bothering me and I've seen this several times lately in different counties.
    I am going to FOIA it as soon as I figure what to ask for and if it is Homeland....I'm going to spend some time with the camera. That crap isn't going to happen here.
    Did you happen to notice any insignia on the BDUs? I've seen VSP in BDUs which had the familiar VSP shoulder patch.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Sounds like a Trooper in Training. http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Employmen..._Training.shtm Typically new Troopers are not issued regular uniforms until closer to graduation. BDU's are standard issue to Troopers in Training.

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    VSP Troopers assigned to truck/weight detail do wear BDUs. FWIW a Trooper is a Trooper is a Trooper. They can be assigned to a variety of details throughout their careers. Patrol, truck/weight, scales, motorcycle, Governor protection, investigations, etc.

    Also, when recruits are hired, they are placed with another Trooper for ride time until the academy starts. After the academy they ride with a FTO until released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    For about a week now, every State Trooper that's pulled a car over had a Trooper in standard uniform giving the ticket and a second one (One car) in BDU's nurse maiding his back...
    NOT to attempt discreditation, but what is the source for this information, personal observation? If so, what percentage of encounters do you feel you are personally observing, and to what theater of operation have you been limited?
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    Just out of curiosity ... was the second individual in BDUs armed?

    If he is a recruit and stashed with the a sworn LEO until his academy class begins, his carrying a firearm would make me very nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    NOT to attempt discreditation, but what is the source for this information, personal observation? If so, what percentage of encounters do you feel you are personally observing, and to what theater of operation have you been limited?
    The source of the information is me!

    what theater of operation have you been limited?
    What are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USNA69 View Post
    Just out of curiosity ... was the second individual in BDUs armed?

    If he is a recruit and stashed with the a sworn LEO until his academy class begins, his carrying a firearm would make me very nervous.
    Yeah, they were armed. There may have been patches but the only thing I noticed on any of them was POLICE written in large print on the back of their jacket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    The source of the information is me!



    What are you talking about?
    So you have been a personal witness to every Trooper stop in the state recently? How is my meaning not clear? Look at the question you skipped when quoting me, and the context should explain it: what percentage of encounters do you feel you are personally observing?

    I wasn't intending to be confrontational, just get a feel for what you meant by "every" Trooper stop. A theater is an area, so what part of the state have you been seeing this? This will help in giving the discussion an idea. For example, if you live within 30 minutes of the training facilities, it might mean something. If you live within 30 minutes of some DHS liaison office, it might mean something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    So you have been a personal witness to every Trooper stop in the state recently? How is my meaning not clear? Look at the question you skipped when quoting me, and the context should explain it: what percentage of encounters do you feel you are personally observing?

    I wasn't intending to be confrontational, just get a feel for what you meant by "every" Trooper stop. A theater is an area, so what part of the state have you been seeing this? This will help in giving the discussion an idea. For example, if you live within 30 minutes of the training facilities, it might mean something. If you live within 30 minutes of some DHS liaison office, it might mean something.
    I didn't say I'd seen every one in the state.

    It sounded confrontational and I took it that way.

    We are not in the military and I've been seeing them over the Southern part of Va. on the interstates and 360 which is the hot link into the South here.

    The only DHS office I know of is in Richmond, which is central to the area I cover (about 200 miles).

    Going East from Richmond today, all State police cars had one occupant and no one was pulled over probably because it was raining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I didn't say I'd seen every one in the state.

    It sounded confrontational and I took it that way.

    We are not in the military and I've been seeing them over the Southern part of Va. on the interstates and 360 which is the hot link into the South here.

    The only DHS office I know of is in Richmond, which is central to the area I cover (about 200 miles).

    Going East from Richmond today, all State police cars had one occupant and no one was pulled over probably because it was raining.
    N 360 or S 360?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    N 360 or S 360?
    South. Amelia.

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    Chesterfield County SWAT trainees wear BDU's. I like to OC where they are having lunch. First time I saw them, I thought the NG was eating lunch.

    Am I the only one uncomfortable with the level of militarization of our police forces?
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