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    Virginia non resident pistol permit

    I'll try to be brief.
    1. Is Virginia amiable to issuing non resident pistol permits?
    Some states have applications but actually make it impossible.

    2. What firearms (excluding class 3) if any, are prohibited or banned?

    I would like spend some time in Virginia with my brother. Who knows,
    I may move there to escape konnecticut....need I say more?

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    VA is very non-res friendly.

    Most info here:

    http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms.shtm
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman View Post

    I may move there to escape konnecticut....need I say more?
    Make sure you have all your shots and official application to become a Resident Southerner. A new regulation requires an affidavit affirming your ability and willingness to eat Bar B Q.

    Any reference to how we did it back home is grounds for being sent back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman View Post
    I'll try to be brief.
    1. Is Virginia amiable to issuing non resident pistol permits?
    Some states have applications but actually make it impossible.


    2. What firearms (excluding class 3) if any, are prohibited or banned?

    I would like spend some time in Virginia with my brother. Who knows,
    I may move there to escape konnecticut....need I say more?
    Virginia is a "shall issue" state, which means that as long as you are not otherwise disqualified by any of a very specific set of reasons, they must issue you a non-resident CHP, assuming you fill out all the forms and pay the fee, etc.

    TFred

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    Virginia is an "Open Carry" state by default. Any individual who is not legally barred from possession of a handgun may openly carry (OC) said handgun anywhere that is not prohibited by law (e.g. K-12 schools, courthouses, jails, air carrier airport terminal buildings, private property if prohibited by owner, federal buildings).

    Concealed carry requires a permit, known here as a Concealed Handgun Permit or CHP, which shall be issued to any qualified individual 21 years of age or older. The CHP is issued to residents by circuit courts or to non-residents by the Virginia Sate Police. An application may be downloaded from http://www.vsp.state.va.us/FormsPublications.shtm (scroll down to Concealed Handgun Permit Application)

    See http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_StateLaws.shtm for more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman View Post
    I may move there to escape konnecticut....need I say more?
    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Make sure you have all your shots and official application to become a Resident Southerner. A new regulation requires an affidavit affirming your ability and willingness to eat Bar B Q.

    Any reference to how we did it back home is grounds for being sent back.

    being a "come here" myself, I'll second what peter said. The advantage to not actually being from here is you can eat any kind of bar b q without that feeling of guilt of betrayel of your roots (I've known some people who are VERY vocal on the differences between tomato-based and vinegar-based sauces, on the other hand, I can enjoy both).
    Calling a fried chicken "yard bird" (unless you're just talking about the halfwings) is also grounds for deportation proceedings to begin.

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    How's that southern accent coming? ;>)

    Quote Originally Posted by scouser View Post
    being a "come here" myself, I'll second what peter said. The advantage to not actually being from here is you can eat any kind of bar b q without that feeling of guilt of betrayel of your roots (I've known some people who are VERY vocal on the differences between tomato-based and vinegar-based sauces, on the other hand, I can enjoy both).
    Calling a fried chicken "yard bird" (unless you're just talking about the halfwings) is also grounds for deportation proceedings to begin.
    While I agree with the 1st paragraph (being a GMC based product), I disagree with the 2nd reference to those of us that do NOT think yard bird is worth paying for more than twice a year. I have learned to enjoy many southern foods including Pinto beans, fried taters and cornbread. I still don't see the appeal of "greens", fried okra or (God help me) sweet tea.

    Like a wise man once said here, "there are too many good parts on a cow, to eat that"!

    Now bad mouthing grits has been known to cause some people's blood pressure to rise.

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    request an application packet

    nonrespermit@vsp.virginia.gov.

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    Be sure to read the back of your non-resident CHP very carefull when it arrives. It clearly states that it is a felony, enforcable anywhere, to refer, anywhere within or outside the borders of the Commonwealth, to The Late Unpleasantness as anything but The War of Northern Aggression.

    There is another provision that, because of possible conflicts with health and "morals" codes is not rigorously applied, that requires you to spit and insert the word "damned" in front of any reference to Yankees (unless clearly indicating the baseball team).

    And moving away from CHP provisions to general Virginianess - be prepared to be asked "Who was your mother before she was married?"

    We insisted that there be a northbound section added to I-95 so that folks who made reference to how it was done "where I come from" could be sent back there quickly. Unfortunately, traffic in that direction is often reduced to a crawl due to the numbers of folks being sent back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Be sure to read the back of your non-resident CHP very carefull when it arrives. It clearly states that it is a felony, enforcable anywhere, to refer, anywhere within or outside the borders of the Commonwealth, to The Late Unpleasantness as anything but The War of Northern Aggression.

    There is another provision that, because of possible conflicts with health and "morals" codes is not rigorously applied, that requires you to spit and insert the word "damned" in front of any reference to Yankees (unless clearly indicating the baseball team).

    And moving away from CHP provisions to general Virginianess - be prepared to be asked "Who was your mother before she was married?"

    We insisted that there be a northbound section added to I-95 so that folks who made reference to how it was done "where I come from" could be sent back there quickly. Unfortunately, traffic in that direction is often reduced to a crawl due to the numbers of folks being sent back.

    stay safe.
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    You can claim an exemption on the BBQ requirement if you check the box on the app marked "The mere sight of that crap turns my stomach".
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    The CHP is issued to residents by circuit courts or to non-residents by the Virginia Sate Police.
    That said, there are some that believe all "rules" are made by Northuners and should be broken. In Virginia Beach the circuit court "issues" the CHP but does NOT process the applications - that is done by the Va Beach PD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    You can claim an exemption on the BBQ requirement if you check the box on the app marked "The mere sight of that crap turns my stomach".
    Oh, so THAT'S the box being talked about in the ban the box thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drdan01 View Post
    Oh, so THAT'S the box being talked about in the ban the box thread!
    Don't pay any attention to him. He was Grandfathered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Be sure to read the back of your non-resident CHP very carefull when it arrives. It clearly states that it is a felony, enforcable anywhere, to refer, anywhere within or outside the borders of the Commonwealth, to The Late Unpleasantness as anything but The War of Northern Aggression.

    There is another provision that, because of possible conflicts with health and "morals" codes is not rigorously applied, that requires you to spit and insert the word "damned" in front of any reference to Yankees (unless clearly indicating the baseball team).

    And moving away from CHP provisions to general Virginianess - be prepared to be asked "Who was your mother before she was married?"

    We insisted that there be a northbound section added to I-95 so that folks who made reference to how it was done "where I come from" could be sent back there quickly. Unfortunately, traffic in that direction is often reduced to a crawl due to the numbers of folks being sent back.

    stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    You can claim an exemption on the BBQ requirement if you check the box on the app marked "The mere sight of that crap turns my stomach".
    Pardon my slight OT indulgence here, but I've been meaning to ask this for quite some time...

    BBQ is most generally pulled pork - but sometimes other meats, slow-cooked in some sort of a sauce. Pulled pork by itself, is basically just shredded meat...

    Do you dislike shredded pork? Or other kinds of slow-cooked meat? Or would it be safe to say that you just haven't found the right sauce in which to cook it?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Pardon my slight OT indulgence here, but I've been meaning to ask this for quite some time...

    BBQ is most generally pulled pork - but sometimes other meats, slow-cooked in some sort of a sauce. Pulled pork by itself, is basically just shredded meat...

    Do you dislike shredded pork? Or other kinds of slow-cooked meat? Or would it be safe to say that you just haven't found the right sauce in which to cook it?



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    When I moved to Richmond (to see all of the 2nd Place trophies on Monument Avenue (gosh, I love that joke), I attended a private party where the host introduced me to BBQ.

    Suffice it to say, that after eating a generous helping, I became violently ill and thus, never touched it again. Now, I'll take a pizza with anchovies 8 days a week....BBQ? I'll pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Pardon my slight OT indulgence here, but I've been meaning to ask this for quite some time...

    BBQ is most generally pulled pork - but sometimes other meats, slow-cooked in some sort of a sauce. Pulled pork by itself, is basically just shredded meat...

    Do you dislike shredded pork? Or other kinds of slow-cooked meat? Or would it be safe to say that you just haven't found the right sauce in which to cook it?



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    1 - BBQ is pork. Pork that has been pulled, not sliced or minced or "shredded" into little straws. (Dear Texas - bite me! Brisket is not BBQ, even if it is mighty tasty.)

    2 - Other meats may be slow-cooked over coals, but BBQ is not cooked directly over the heat source. (Anything cooked via a source of heat other than hardwood coals is not BBQ. It is some sort of roasted meat.)

    3 - BBW is not cooked in any sauce. BBQ may be basted as it cooks, and may be served with a sauce pre-applied. DO NOT start the tomato vs. vinegar discussion. DO NOT start the catsup/ketchup (two different substances) vs. tomato sauce discussion. Karo or brown sugar may be substituted in an emergency, but doing so would be an admission of having run out of molasses (as bad as not having enough ammo for the zombie apocolypse!).

    4 - Pulled pork is not "shredded".

    4a - Minced, chopped, or sliced are methods for ruining the texture, flavor and "feel" of BBQ. They are also alleged to be methods used to control the amount of meat served. (The appropriate and officially sanctioned amount per serving is "a handful".)

    But what can you expect from someone who lives North of the Ni, and who probably has never set foot in Allman's? Heck, I'll bet you don't know the dates for the opening and closing of the season at Carl's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    1 - BBQ is pork. Pork that has been pulled, not sliced or minced or "shredded" into little straws. (Dear Texas - bite me! Brisket is not BBQ, even if it is mighty tasty.)

    2 - Other meats may be slow-cooked over coals, but BBQ is not cooked directly over the heat source. (Anything cooked via a source of heat other than hardwood coals is not BBQ. It is some sort of roasted meat.)

    3 - BBW is not cooked in any sauce. BBQ may be basted as it cooks, and may be served with a sauce pre-applied. DO NOT start the tomato vs. vinegar discussion. DO NOT start the catsup/ketchup (two different substances) vs. tomato sauce discussion. Karo or brown sugar may be substituted in an emergency, but doing so would be an admission of having run out of molasses (as bad as not having enough ammo for the zombie apocolypse!).

    4 - Pulled pork is not "shredded".

    4a - Minced, chopped, or sliced are methods for ruining the texture, flavor and "feel" of BBQ. They are also alleged to be methods used to control the amount of meat served. (The appropriate and officially sanctioned amount per serving is "a handful".)

    But what can you expect from someone who lives North of the Ni, and who probably has never set foot in Allman's? Heck, I'll bet you don't know the dates for the opening and closing of the season at Carl's!

    stay safe.
    Alright what started out as amusing evidence that I'm not a BBQ expert quickly turned into fightin' words!!!

    I have eaten at Allmans, but, being that I can't stand the [FORBIDDEN]vinegar sauce[/FORBIDDEN], I really don't get all the fuss. I am, however, a significant fan of the "Virginia sauce" at Virginia BBQ just down the hill from Allman's, in the old Safeway building.

    As for those fightin' words!!! Carl's is open from the first weekend after Valentine's Day to the first weekend around Thanksgiving. Or thereabouts.



    TFred - Lovin' Carl's for over 30 years now!

    P.S. I laughed at this from Wiki: "Carl's is closed each year from the Sunday before Thanksgiving until the Friday of Presidents Day Weekend. This is because Sponseller would close the shop each year for hunting season, and the current owners (also Sponseller family members) have continued the tradition."

    "Tradition," my ...you know what... Those suckers take in money as fast as you can hand it to them 12 hours a day, for 9 months out of the year. Rumor used to be that Carl spent winters in the Bahamas. He's passed on now, but I'm sure the current family can do anything they want in the off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    When I moved to Richmond (to see all of the 2nd Place trophies on Monument Avenue (gosh, I love that joke), I attended a private party where the host introduced me to BBQ.

    Suffice it to say, that after eating a generous helping, I became violently ill and thus, never touched it again. Now, I'll take a pizza with anchovies 8 days a week....BBQ? I'll pass.
    Wow, I'm sure I didn't know that. That's a real shame. That has happened to me before, not with BBQ, but I know exactly how you feel!

    When I was a kid the same thing happened to me with lasagne. Fortunately, after a number of years I tried it again, and quickly realized how much I liked lasagne... perhaps in time you might try again and have a much better experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    When I moved to Richmond (to see all of the 2nd Place trophies on Monument Avenue (gosh, I love that joke), I attended a private party where the host introduced me to BBQ.

    Suffice it to say, that after eating a generous helping, I became violently ill and thus, never touched it again. Now, I'll take a pizza with anchovies 8 days a week....BBQ? I'll pass.
    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Wow, I'm sure I didn't know that. That's a real shame. That has happened to me before, not with BBQ, but I know exactly how you feel!

    When I was a kid the same thing happened to me with lasagne. Fortunately, after a number of years I tried it again, and quickly realized how much I liked lasagne... perhaps in time you might try again and have a much better experience.

    TFred
    Jim, I'm wondering if you were given something from the (thankfully) now defunct Bill's? If the one meal I had there had been my first taste of BBQ I'd have never touched it again either. Sorry people, I don't care if it was a "Richmond tradition" that place was nasty and I'm glad it can no longer serve that slop to decent human beings. Jim, there's far better places to try BBQ from, learn from TFred's lasagne experience.

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    Allright...being a traditionalist I like to see how it was done in the beginning. I've posted about traditional Bar B Q before but for the newbies..

    Where did cannibalism begin?
    There have been reports of cannibalism throughout history, but perhaps the most influential came from Christopher Columbus, after his second voyage to the New World, in 1495. He claimed that on the island of Guadeloupe he had discovered a recently abandoned feast of human limbs simmering in cauldrons and roasting on spits. It was, he said, the work of the “Canib” tribe—a mispronunciation of “Carib”—which gave rise to the Spanish word canibales. Other explorers told of cannibalism among tribes in the Amazon basin, Africa, Australia, Fiji, Sumatra, New Guinea, and Polynesia. In Polynesia, humans are still sometimes known as “long pig,” on account of their similarity to pork.

    Actually, Bar-B-Que was the way the Carib (aka Canib) Indians cooked their food. Carib (aka Canib) is also where the term "cannibal" comes from.They would raid the islands for food.

    Later, traders smoked/jerked beef (Bouf) and sold it to the pirates, hence "boucanee
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    I have taken friends, who thought that BBQ was a brick thing in the back yard, to Pierce's, and introduced them to the "Jumbo" with slaw and onion rings.
    The result was something akin a religious experience for them.
    The continually pester me to take them back, as it is now much less easy to find the place, since they terraformed the Lightfoot exit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USNA69 View Post
    I have taken friends, who thought that BBQ was a brick thing in the back yard, to Pierce's, and introduced them to the "Jumbo" with slaw and onion rings.
    The result was something akin a religious experience for them.
    The continually pester me to take them back, as it is now much less easy to find the place, since they terraformed the Lightfoot exit.

    To be a Virginian either by Birth, Marriage, Adoption, or even on one's Mother's side is an Introduction to any State in the Union, a Passport to any Foreign Country, and a Benediction from Almighty.
    I like Pierce's, I was introduced to the place by one of the two gentlemen who taught me to drive a tourbus back in 2001. Sadly he's no longer with us but I did find out last year that our very own Mr Sidestreet was a friend of his

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    Okay, either kindly take this topic back ON TOPIC, or alternately, provide the name of the best BBQ place to get lunch at here on the Southside of Hampton Roads as this discussion is just making me h-u-n-g-r-y!

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