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    HB700 will get a vote!!!!!

    After all the calls, emails and such....I Just got off the phone with Pickets office....I was told...."We have no time frame at the moment, but it will 'definitely' be voted on."

    Time to contact all the other members and show our support!!!

    If we take them out their word....this is a good thing!!!!!

    Thanks everyone.....

    Call to be sure....512-463-0133....Mary Ann.....
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    Thanks for the update Zekester.

    Perhaps this "common sense" measure still has a chance.

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    Thumbs up Hb700

    I wrote Rep. Representative Scott Turner asking him FOR his SUPPORT. He is strongly Pro 2nd Ammendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie47 View Post
    I wrote Rep. Representative Scott Turner asking him FOR his SUPPORT. He is strongly Pro 2nd Ammendment.
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    Consider asking your Representatives to show their support by signing on as a joint or co-author to SHOW their support. There's a big difference between doing that and saying they will vote for it if it comes up for a vote. The more joint and co-authors a bill can gather the better.

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    I'm not getting too excited about this yet. Getting the bill out of committee this late, it still has a good chance of dying in Calendars.

    This way, those who don't really support the bill can vote it favorably out of committee and when it dies in calendars, they can say "I tried but it was out of my hands".

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    Quote Originally Posted by canvasbck View Post
    I'm not getting too excited about this yet. Getting the bill out of committee this late, it still has a good chance of dying in Calendars.

    This way, those who don't really support the bill can vote it favorably out of committee and when it dies in calendars, they can say "I tried but it was out of my hands".
    Gee, you mean exactly like 2011? I'd be shocked. Shocked, I say!

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    I sure hope you guys get OC passed down there. The wife and I are looking at a possible move to Texas and OC would make it that much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Gee, you mean exactly like 2011? I'd be shocked. Shocked, I say!
    I HAD more hope for HB700 than I ever did for HB2756 last session. This session's bill is much better than that one. HB2756 was voted favorably out of committee on April 23, 2011, then it died in calendars.

    If the rumors are true, HB700 should see a committee vote around April 16-18. At least this one will sit on calendars a week longer before it dies than the last one did.

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    Call Eddie Now

    512) 463-0596

    I feel for this guy but he is there.....give him a call an request a vote.

    I again got off the phone from Picketts, office.....I informed them that I was recording the conversation, I was told that they reqauest me not to post the recording, so therefore, I will not at this time.

    I was told again that HB700 will for sure be brought up for a vote!!!!!

    If it is not brought up, I will post the recording. If I can leagally do so.

    This will only die......if WE ALLOW it to die!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    512) 463-0596

    I feel for this guy but he is there.....give him a call an request a vote.

    I again got off the phone from Picketts, office.....I informed them that I was recording the conversation, I was told that they reqauest me not to post the recording, so therefore, I will not at this time.

    I was told again that HB700 will for sure be brought up for a vote!!!!!

    If it is not brought up, I will post the recording. If I can leagally do so.

    This will only die......if WE ALLOW it to die!!!!!!!!!!

    Texas is a one party consent state and since you were a party to the conversation, you could have recorded and and not told them. As long as you dont attempt to blackmail or alter the recording in a criminal way then you can do with it what you want!

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    TPC 16.02 Excerpts

    (b) A person commits an offense if the person:
    (1) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures another person to intercept or endeavor to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication;
    (2) intentionally discloses or endeavors to disclose to another person the contents of a wire, oral, or electronic communication if the person knows or has reason to know the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subsection;
    (3) intentionally uses or endeavors to use the contents of a wire, oral, or electronic communication if the person knows or is reckless about whether the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subsection;
    (4) knowingly or intentionally effects a covert entry for the purpose of intercepting wire, oral, or electronic communications without court order or authorization; or
    (5) intentionally uses, endeavors to use, or procures any other person to use or endeavor to use any electronic, mechanical, or other device to intercept any oral communication when the device:
    (A) is affixed to, or otherwise transmits a signal through a wire, cable, or other connection used in wire communications; or
    (B) transmits communications by radio or interferes with the transmission of communications by radio.

    (c) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under Subsection (b) that:

    (3) a person acting under color of law intercepts:
    (A) a wire, oral, or electronic communication, if the person is a party to the communication or if one of the parties to the communication has given
    prior consent to the interception;

    (4) a person not acting under color of law intercepts a wire, oral, or electronic communication, if:
    (A) the person is a party to the communication; or
    (B) one of the parties to the communication has given prior consent to the interception, unless the communication is intercepted for the
    purpose of committing an unlawful act;

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    I am currently deployed in Afghanistan, and have been trying to follow this new law thru the news via internet. Up until about a week ago, the usual sources were still following it with some updates every day or every other day. Anyone have a good source of where this bill is at, something I can read internet-style?

    I won't be home until July or so, and by that time, it will either be a law, or back to the drawing board. It's promising to hear that they are actually going to vote on it this time, but as we (in uniform) know, we've heard that promise before.

    Thanks in advance for any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-FX View Post
    I am currently deployed in Afghanistan, and have been trying to follow this new law thru the news via internet. Up until about a week ago, the usual sources were still following it with some updates every day or every other day. Anyone have a good source of where this bill is at, something I can read internet-style?

    I won't be home until July or so, and by that time, it will either be a law, or back to the drawing board. It's promising to hear that they are actually going to vote on it this time, but as we (in uniform) know, we've heard that promise before.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    Unfortunately, I am not aware of a source which provides much information other than a few forums such as this one.

    The Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee is scheduled to meet in a few hours, at 8:00 AM Thursday, April 11. The published agenda does not include H.B. 700. http://www.house.state.tx.us/schedul...itteeCode=C420

    Yesterday, I spoke with Rep. Lavendar's office. He is speaking with Chairman Pickett trying to get H.B. 700 scheduled for a vote. The chairman and no one else sets the agenda. I also spoke with Chairman Pickett's office and received a polite "I'll pass your request (that the bill be brought up for a vote in a timely manner) on to Rep. Pickett", but no information as to when or if the chairman intended to bring it to a vote.

    Speaker Straus' office has replied with a similar I'll pass it along when requested to speak with Chairman Pickett about scheduling a vote.

    I requested my Rep., who is a joint author, contact Chairman Pickett to request a vote, but I am not aware of whether he did, in fact, do so.

    Some people are commenting on Chairman Pickett's Facebook page where he says that it is his policy not to bring bills up for a vote at the same meeting of the committee at which public testimony is taken in order to provide people who could not attend an opportunity to make written submissions. That was four weeks ago. Draw your own conclusion(s).

    I believe May 27th is the final day of this legislative session. Simply put, there is precious little time for any of the bills presently pending before the Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee to make their way through the Calendars Committee and then the House and then over to the Senate where it will take a 2/3rds vote of the Senate for the bill (or any other bill for that matter) to make it to the Senate floor.

    Is there time left for this to happen? Perhaps, but the window of opportunity is closing rapidly. As a practical matter, my assessment is that it is unlikely that this bill or the campus carry bill are likely to make it through the process in time.

    Thank you for your service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-FX View Post
    It's promising to hear that they are actually going to vote on it this time, but as we (in uniform) know, we've heard that promise before.
    I think you may misunderstand where HB 700 is and what's been promised. So far, this year's bill has not made it as far as the bill two years ago did. That bill did make it out of House Committee and died in Calendars. This year's bill is still in House Committee, and the promise of a vote is only on a vote to pass it out of Committee, not a vote in the full House. So far, we have made less progress than we did two years ago. I don't see anything "promising", here.

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    Actually if my memory serves me well, HB 700 is farther along at this point than HB 2756 was in 2011. HB 2756 was heard before the Committee on April 23, 2011 - so HB 700 at least for now is a good 30 days plus farther down the track.

    The PROBLEM for HB 700 is that the Chair of the Public Safety Subcommittee is now a Democrat - appointed by a "moderate Republican" (RINO) who depends upon Democrats to retain his Speakership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire-FX View Post
    I am currently deployed in Afghanistan, and have been trying to follow this new law thru the news via internet. Up until about a week ago, the usual sources were still following it with some updates every day or every other day. Anyone have a good source of where this bill is at, something I can read internet-style?

    I won't be home until July or so, and by that time, it will either be a law, or back to the drawing board. It's promising to hear that they are actually going to vote on it this time, but as we (in uniform) know, we've heard that promise before.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
    Where at in this lovely country are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushcreek2 View Post
    Actually if my memory serves me well, HB 700 is farther along at this point than HB 2756 was in 2011. HB 2756 was heard before the Committee on April 23, 2011 - so HB 700 at least for now is a good 30 days plus farther down the track.

    The PROBLEM for HB 700 is that the Chair of the Public Safety Subcommittee is now a Democrat - appointed by a "moderate Republican" (RINO) who depends upon Democrats to retain his Speakership.
    My point is that HB 700 has not yet made even as much progress as HB 2756 did. There's nothing particularly promising about the upcoming vote, and no reason to suppose this year is any more likely to see open carry than two years ago was.

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    Couldn't agree with you more. HB 2756 was voted out of Committee only to be allowed to die in Calendars.

    I believe a similar fate awaits HB 700.
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    I have been trying to get as many people to call as I can. I have listed Picketts phone number on other forums trying to get more eyes on it. I have also given the info to our local gun store so he could try to get others to call. We have to get as many people as we can to call in. How does the fate of this bill lie in the hands of one sole person when we live in this strong of a republican state.
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    Sad state of affairs when the Texas Legislature is 2/3 made up of "Republicans" -

    Problem is Representative Joe Straus who apparently " Loves to do a little side-step " - like appointing a Democrat to Chair the Public Safety Subcommittee thereby ensuring the future support of the Democrats, which added to the RINO's like my Rep Diane Patrick ensures that he retains the Speakership.

    This puts the balance of the House at about 55/45 realistically IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ()pen(arry View Post
    I think you may misunderstand where HB 700 is and what's been promised. So far, this year's bill has not made it as far as the bill two years ago did. That bill did make it out of House Committee and died in Calendars. This year's bill is still in House Committee, and the promise of a vote is only on a vote to pass it out of Committee, not a vote in the full House. So far, we have made less progress than we did two years ago. I don't see anything "promising", here.
    You are correct. I was thinking this was farther along that it is. Hence the request for a better means to follow this bill. We get 1 News Channel on Armed Forces Network, which rotates thru ALL of the news re-broadcasts back in the states, so one minute you are watching CBS, 30 min later, CNN, 30 min later MSNBC, 30 min later FOX.... It get difficult to follow any news at all. SO, Thank you for the clarification. I have been following this forum for a while now, and decided I may as well register get more involved.

    AFCop (I take it that means Air Force Cop), I'm stuck in the lovely township of Kabul. Where are you hanging your headgear, and how long till you rotate back to the real world?

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    Are there any other persons of influence that can be contacted to push this thing in the right direction?

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    2756 last session was introduced too late, was amended with bad language and was only pushed out of committee to put it down like a rabid dog to get it out of the way. So to speak.

    700 was introduced early, written correctly (with a committee substitute since it was introduced with the wrong language in error) then got supported to death with a rash of contact to Pickett and apparently other committee members with threats, demands, accusations and all kinds of things that don't get bills moved. If you went through Pickett's Facebook page when it was up, and looked at some of the people commenting, many weren't even effected by it and made it clear the only thing they were told was to make contact. Quite a few showed not only did they not understand the process but the bill either.

    It started out as an uphill battle and got knocked down. I'm sure Pickett, who thinks the Constitution is generational, is laughing for flipping off all the so called supporters watching the bill get burned. I think a lot of people that invested time and energy into the first real attempt at OC will think twice about doing it again. People need to educate themselves and chill the ____ out.

    I have to say, Lavendar deserves a lot of thanks, especially since he's vowed to keep up the fight. Over the next 2 years, "we" need to be communicating with our Rep's to get on board and sponsor or co-sponsor it and pray the radical element that destroyed it this time stays at bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtle View Post
    Are there any other persons of influence that can be contacted to push this thing in the right direction?
    Its dead, unless you have something on Strauss and Pickett that could get them sent to Prison. If you do, use it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKTex View Post
    <snip> (HB 700) ...then got supported to death with a rash of contact to Pickett and apparently other committee members with threats, demands, accusations and all kinds of things that don't get bills moved. <snip>
    This is neither the time nor place to go into details, but I have it on good authority that the above theory had nothing to do with HB 700 being stuck in committee.

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