bushi01
Regular Member
I am wondering if there is any documentation out there that will tell me how many gun crimes have been committed in this state by permit holders.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Gun Crimes
- Thread starter bushi01
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davidmcbeth
Banned
You bet ... in courthouses .... in the jurisdictions/venues that pull licenses
You wish to show that people with permits commit low crimes I assume.
You can do this w/o the need to examine ALL places in CT ... do by a sampling process ... if you know the number of permits issued in a location and you can ID the # permit holders (or number of permits pulled - specific ID of the criminal is not necessarily required, right?) who committed crimes then you can do such an analysis.
You MAY be able to ask to inspect redacted records (records sans any IDing information) from a town that has pulled permits for being involved in gun crimes ... and the town may be able to give you an estimate or accurate # of permits issued.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0461.htm talks about what information is NOT available under a FOIA request ... does not seem to include ALL information, just names and addresses.
So I think that you could go to a town, ask for permit records sans names and addresses and permit revocation records
Go to town after town until one says "OK, here are the redacted records" .... (some might just give you the # or permit holders - which would save both parties time) ... or go to one town and if they deny, file a FOIC complaint, wait a year for a ruling....
If you are not willing to do this work and are looking for a study already done; I know of none, but others might post.
You wish to show that people with permits commit low crimes I assume.
You can do this w/o the need to examine ALL places in CT ... do by a sampling process ... if you know the number of permits issued in a location and you can ID the # permit holders (or number of permits pulled - specific ID of the criminal is not necessarily required, right?) who committed crimes then you can do such an analysis.
You MAY be able to ask to inspect redacted records (records sans any IDing information) from a town that has pulled permits for being involved in gun crimes ... and the town may be able to give you an estimate or accurate # of permits issued.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0461.htm talks about what information is NOT available under a FOIA request ... does not seem to include ALL information, just names and addresses.
So I think that you could go to a town, ask for permit records sans names and addresses and permit revocation records
Go to town after town until one says "OK, here are the redacted records" .... (some might just give you the # or permit holders - which would save both parties time) ... or go to one town and if they deny, file a FOIC complaint, wait a year for a ruling....
If you are not willing to do this work and are looking for a study already done; I know of none, but others might post.
hobie16
Regular Member
Not exactly what you asked but good info none the less. The Legislature asked the Office of Legislature Research do look at firearm related offenses.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0174.htm
Link for all OLR reports http://www.jud.ct.gov/lawlib/law/firearms.htm
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0174.htm
Link for all OLR reports http://www.jud.ct.gov/lawlib/law/firearms.htm
hobie16
Regular Member
davidmcbeth
Banned
This is a great one! Now I can pick and choose what crime I am willing to perform for the avg time in prison...
Just kidding .... but good information here about how wacko this state is
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
There was some information on NC permit holders by a New York news source, I'll try to find it. But if you are looking for some study to vindicate permit holders as super citizens you will be disappointed. A permit is a permit, just like a drivers license, it has no control of the people holding it. In the findings on NC they found not only that permit holders committed crimes, but that there were felons with permits. While those percentages were small they were probably within the percentages of crime committed by the population as a whole.
A firearm does not a criminal make, and a permit does not make noble.
Please remember this is a article by the progressive media, permit holders are not anymore criminals then non permit holders, but none the less some will commit crimes. I am against the sole means of bearing arms being permits, I do not think privilege papers are what our founders had in mind. But permits can coexist with rights as long as they are separated as they are in NC, OC is a right, and CC is a privilege. Holding up permits as a talisman for a right in the long run is a losing proposition, IMO.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/u...e-in-the-wrong-hands.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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