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    Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    EDIT: here's the plan (thanks, Venator and MOC):
    We will be meeting in the parking lot at the corner of S Capitol and W Wastenaw (1.5 block south of the Capitol) and marching to the Capitol in unison. The march will begin promptly at 11:00 AM.
    http://www.facebook.com/events/157907177702833/

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    --From West Bloomfield and surrounding area: DanM (2 seats available)
    --From "East side" (Metro Detroit area?): mikestilly
    --From the Grand Rapids area: Raggs

    Counter-protesting:
    State rally – Michigan Moms Demand Action
    Saturday, April 13, 11:00 AM

    WHO: MOMS DEMAND ACTION – MID-MICHIGAN CHAPTER
    WHERE: MICHIGAN STATE CAPITOL, LANSING, MICHIGAN

    SPEAKERS
    Keynote: Shannon Watts, Founder, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense In America
    Welcome: Virg Bernero, Mayor of Lansing, Michigan
    http://momsdemandaction.org/events/1mm4gc-events/
    Last edited by DanM; 04-10-2013 at 08:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Who's up for a counter-protest at the below? I'm in West Bloomfield and have 4 available seats in my car.


    http://momsdemandaction.org/events/1mm4gc-events/
    Sounds fun, need to check my schedule.
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Who's up for a counter-protest at the below? I'm in West Bloomfield and have 4 available seats in my car.


    http://momsdemandaction.org/events/1mm4gc-events/
    I hope you guys get a large group to show up. Virg B is a dirt-bag & I am sure he will milk this media moment to the Nth degree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Who's up for a counter-protest at the below? I'm in West Bloomfield and have 4 available seats in my car.


    http://momsdemandaction.org/events/1mm4gc-events/
    Dan! Great idea. I have 4 seats and an AR willing to go from the east side. I'd need to make sure I can be back in time for an event I had in the evening. I dont see why not. Lets meet up and drive down in a convoy. Any more out there want to join us? Anyone up for making signs?
    Last edited by mikestilly; 04-07-2013 at 08:50 PM.

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    Here are some details and plans for a counter rally.

    http://www.facebook.com/events/157907177702833/
    An Amazon best seller "MY PARENTS OPEN CARRY" http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/

    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    i'll be there with my wife, daughter, a friend and his wife and 2 kids.
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    ill be there, if the weather is good ill have the kids with me.
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    Great to see affirmations of attendance! All, there are people willing to transport you:

    --From West Bloomfield and surrounding area: DanM
    --From "East side" (Metro Detroit area?): mikestilly

    This pro-gun counter-rally against anti-gun forces massing at the state capitol will be this Saturday.

    Saturday! What easier day is there in the week? Come armed or un-armed and defend your rights! Especially, you will be standing up to anti-gunners in their face and on the grounds of the capitol! And you don't even have to drive! DanM or mikestilly will chauffer you! Contact us.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    I will have a few 11x17 inch signs for people to carry. Just on paper, but will say We support moms with guns. And Guns save lives-end gun free zones.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    The other sign.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    Need A Ride?

    I am coming from the GR area, let me know if you want a ride down.
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    east side need a ride?

    Empty car but me at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    I will have a few 11x17 inch signs for people to carry. Just on paper . . .
    I'll have a stapler. Folks, have something sturdy to staple these to.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    In my carpool, I currently now have two passengers planned, and I have two seats available. PM me for a ride. Coming from the West Bloomfield and surrounding area, along the M-59/I-96 route.
    Last edited by DanM; 04-10-2013 at 10:35 AM.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

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    I'll be there.

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    I now have to riders and room for more, I hope to see a huge turnout!
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    I now have to riders and room for more, I hope to see a huge turnout!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Two
    Yes that too
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    I hope this went well? Good work to all those who showed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    I hope this went well? Good work to all those who showed up.
    Great turn out. Was nice to see some familiar faces.

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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    Good to hear. Well done everybody. +1
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    Yea very good turn out, especially with the weather the way it was.
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    Was a happy bunch of folks I spoke with. I only wish we would have out numbered the protestors
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    Was a happy bunch of folks I spoke with. I only wish we would have out numbered the protestors
    I can't find a peep about the counter protest on the web? Maybe my google-fu has failed me? Hopefully it wasn't 10 of us vs. 100 of them?
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    Re: Counter-protest in Lansing on Saturday 4/13/13?

    Found a youtube video -

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ob0Lih2pk
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