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Aren't you Arizona guys tired of McTraitor yet???Four GOP senators -- Toomey, Mark Kirk of Illinois, Susan Collins of Maine and John McCain of Arizona -- crossed party lines to support the measure.
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I want to scream yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss from the rooftops but I know our opposition is already planning the next bill,
"Public opinion and votes have nothing to do with this. The challenge of the Court is not what they're going to do with votes. The challenge-- of the Court is are they going to protect people's rights." - Al Sharpton
Well we need to ban or check SOMETHING.
Somebody PLEASE ban something. It's for the baby children!
(On topic: Yay!).
The Messiah is on TV throwing a temper tantrum...
Originally Posted by Primus
And now Obama is on the news crying about it and trying the whole get everyone emotional thing now. Sad they can not accept it.
Kentucky Open Carry Group
We all speak of liberty and freedom like we are the only ones that know the truth and the right path. But if we expect everyone to accept and follow our path and to accept our truth and want to force it upon them then that is no longer liberty or freedom. It is slavery. I believe in liberty for all. Regardless of their political views, religion, race, sex, etc.
If 90%+ of Americans really supported expanded background checks, do you really think this bill would've failed?
This thing needed to go down in flames. Good.
We need to work hard to unseat the bozos who voted for this further infringement.
I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...
Here's the amendments that were voted on today. All were rejected:
Manchin Amdt. No. 715; To protect Second Amendment rights, ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process.
Grassley Amdt. No. 725; To address gun violence, improve the availability of records to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, address mental illness in the criminal justice system, and end straw purchases and trafficking of illegal firearms, and for other purposes.
Leahy Amdt. No. 713; To increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking.
Cornyn Amdt. No. 719; To allow reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms.
Feinstein Amdt. No. 711; To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.
Burr Amdt. No. 720; To protect the Second Amendment rights of veterans and their families.
Lautenberg Amdt. No. 714; To regulate large capacity ammunition feeding devices.
I do think it's wierd how all the libertarians keep assuming every american is or should be a libertarian for their own good then go off bitching about every single law passed, but then when this one fails they're like "see the congress represents the will of the people" it's hilarious....
however I am glad this measure was blunted.
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they love our milk and honey, but they preach about some other way of living, when they're running down my country man they're walkin' on the fightin side of me
The issue is not about the unlimited nature of a right. It is about the ABSOLUTENESS of the 2A that forbids the federal government to infringe. The only way for the fed to pass a constitutional law "infringing" on the "right", is for the constitution to be amended.
The argument is never "is the right absolute?"
The argument is "the fed has no power to infringe... period".
So like you said... let's get to work!
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And, like a petulant child he'll enact an Executive Order. Just watch.
But the ..... CHILDREN ,, the CHILDREN, the CHILDREN ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhh
Maybe he should just revisit this video of his last "Shellacking".... "we" took his advice and contacted our representatives, donated to powerful lobby groups....his tactics, his playbook...
it worked, this time....be vigilant
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat....Teddy Roosevelt
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
I am a basically a libertarian and I do not bitch about every new law that is passed, how exactly would you know if I did? How dare you assume what I and others are assuming, that is beyond presumptuous on your part. Does Congress represent the will of the people or not? If not whom does it represent and why is it funny.
Please capitalize the first "A" in American, it is a proper noun after all, otherwise I will assume you are being disrespectful, ignorant or simply went to public schools.