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    If stopped by cops, what do I say?

    I noticed this comment,

    Quote Originally Posted by hondalx97 View Post
    ...fauquier county suprisingly i have more issues which is odd being so rural. the other day i got stop by a cop and he did no like the fact i was carrying (the first time i've had in issue in 5+ stops or so) but he was asking as many questions as he could and then asked to have my gun... is the legal? and i'm required to give it to him? he was trying to get me for anything and and everything he could (happened to be my birthday) at the end of a 45 + min stop with me and my lady gave me a gun and wished me a happy birthday i found the whole stop very odd he also pulled me over for no reason at all. maybe because i smiled at him when i passed just being nice

    thanks very much and some of these stories and fantatsic hopefully i'll run into a few of you around the area one day.

    ... in another thread but no one responded to it.

    If something like this happens what do you say before giving the LEO the gun?
    Or if the gun is in the glove compartment and they ask if there is a weapon in the car what would you say? (Repeating "Am I free to go?" over and over in response to their questions can only go so far)

    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    I noticed this comment,




    ... in another thread but no one responded to it.

    If something like this happens what do you say before giving the LEO the gun?
    Or if the gun is in the glove compartment and they ask if there is a weapon in the car what would you say? (Repeating "Am I free to go?" over and over in response to their questions can only go so far)

    Thanks guys
    You could get a name of a good local 2A friendly attorney and if it happens again, tell the officer that if he is through with the traffic stop, and would like to get more answers to his questions that he can speak with your attorney instead, or you will be on your way.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    There are lots of threads which discuss this. Of particular interest are posts by "User". We all know the search engine here stinks... but your best bet is just to spend a little time scrolling back through older threads.

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    If stopped by cops, what do I say?

    Well don't tell the officer that his mother fell from the ugly tree hitting every branch on the way down...
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    You could go to http://tinyurl.com/OpenCarry-WI and skim through some of the info, paying closest attention to the video collection at the bottom. Be sure to watch the Don't talk to Cops. Remember, cops ask questions to gain RAS and to investigate you. Why give them more???
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Well don't tell the officer that his mother fell from the ugly tree hitting every branch on the way down...
    Believe me, It didn't work the first time I was trying to be funny.

    Thanks Moto!

    Reasonable, I'll try that. But if he asks me to step out of the car and then he retrieves my gun from the GB then it becomes an issue.

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    If stopped by cops, what do I say?

    Officer: you appear nervous. Do you have guns or drugs in the car?

    You: your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable View Post
    Use yes sir and no sir a lot.
    Use "ask me in court" ... if you ask them a query, thats what they say

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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    Officer: you appear nervous. Do you have guns or drugs in the car?

    You: your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?
    When I PM you because I was arrested for being an A-hole, your paying bail.
    haha.

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    If an LEO asked for my gun while I was in my car, I would not pass it to him. I view that as being very dangerous and if there was a second officer present, it could be disastrous. If he asked me to get out of my car and wanted to take my gun from me, I would protest by saying something like, "I do not consent to you taking my firearm but I will not resist". I would not remove it from my holster and hand it over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    If an LEO asked for my gun while I was in my car, I would not pass it to him. I view that as being very dangerous and if there was a second officer present, it could be disastrous. If he asked me to get out of my car and wanted to take my gun from me, I would protest by saying something like, "I do not consent to you taking my firearm but I will not resist". I would not remove it from my holster and hand it over.
    My rule is, if asked to leave the car, I lock it behind me (and if I have a keyless pad on the car, I leave the keys in the ignition). If they want me out of the car for "safety", that's fine (as long as it is good weather)...but they do not get free access to the car.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    My rule is, if asked to leave the car, I lock it behind me (and if I have a keyless pad on the car, I leave the keys in the ignition). If they want me out of the car for "safety", that's fine (as long as it is good weather)...but they do not get free access to the car.
    Yes, this is what I would do should this ever happen to me. Windows up, keys in hand, doors locked. If they question why, I would just say, "It's a habit I don't want to break". I actually had someone on another website (cars) tell me that if I did something like this, I would be thrown on the ground, knee in the back, and cuffed. I think he worded it like, "I a driver did that to me...." which would seem to indicate he was an LEO. Don't recall which state he was in, but that's one heck of an attitude.
    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    I was in Panera Bread in Winchester Sunday. I'm facing the window looking onto Pleasant Valley Dr. A Jeep Cherokee pulls in and parks nose to the street, rear end to me. Within moments, in pulls a Winchester PD car, then another. Officer #1 walks up to driver and after just a few moments opens the Jeep door and the driver puts his feet on the ground with his hands at about shoulder height. Officer #1 has door blocked open standing between driver and the door.. Officer #2 takes driver to front of cop cars. Officer #1 leaned into the driver area, rummaged and then began jabbing his index finger at the passenger.

    It appears methods of maintaining access have been worked out.

    The two in the Jeep came in and sat in my area. Both Shenandoah U. students. Cops said they had made a left turn on a red without stopping. No ticket. They were taking it all a lot better than I would have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    Officer: you appear nervous. Do you have guns or drugs in the car?

    You: your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    When I PM you because I was arrested for being an A-hole, you're paying bail.
    haha.
    You can never go wrong with complimenting the officer....
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    .... Some of us have been taught anti-interrogation techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    Yes, this is what I would do should this ever happen to me. Windows up, keys in hand, doors locked. If they question why, I would just say, "It's a habit I don't want to break". I actually had someone on another website (cars) tell me that if I did something like this, I would be thrown on the ground, knee in the back, and cuffed. I think he worded it like, "I a driver did that to me...." which would seem to indicate he was an LEO. Don't recall which state he was in, but that's one heck of an attitude.
    Sounds like he was wanting to help the OP buy a new house, courtesy of the state and the responding "LEO".
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuller Malarkey View Post
    I was in Panera Bread in Winchester Sunday. I'm facing the window looking onto Pleasant Valley Dr. A Jeep Cherokee pulls in and parks nose to the street, rear end to me. Within moments, in pulls a Winchester PD car, then another. Officer #1 walks up to driver and after just a few moments opens the Jeep door and the driver puts his feet on the ground with his hands at about shoulder height. Officer #1 has door blocked open standing between driver and the door.. Officer #2 takes driver to front of cop cars. Officer #1 leaned into the driver area, rummaged and then began jabbing his index finger at the passenger.

    It appears methods of maintaining access have been worked out.

    The two in the Jeep came in and sat in my area. Both Shenandoah U. students. Cops said they had made a left turn on a red without stopping. No ticket. They were taking it all a lot better than I would have.
    This is SOP for that department to get that close to a person during a vehicle stop??
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    This is SOP for that department to get that close to a person during a vehicle stop??
    Dunno. The cop opened the door, hand on the door frame and stepped back a tad, the kid put his feet out, not touching the ground and stood up, hands up. Cop #1 had his left leg planted in front of door as Cop #2 had driver by left arm and collar and led driver to front of squad car.

    Driver wasn't frisked, passenger didn't get out until after the police pulled away.
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    The one time i was pulled and the LEO wanted to take my firearm. i replied, "for all our safety the gun should remain where it is and no one touch it". he tried to insist but i said "no i decline for you to touch it for both our safety". he left it alone. but he didn't like it

    if he had tried to take it i would not have resisted , but he didn't know that
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    Quote Originally Posted by papa bear View Post
    The one time i was pulled and the LEO wanted to take my firearm. i replied, "for all our safety the gun should remain where it is and no one touch it". he tried to insist but i said "no i decline for you to touch it for both our safety". he left it alone. but he didn't like it

    if he had tried to take it i would not have resisted , but he didn't know that
    Were you still in the car, or did he have you get out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Well don't tell the officer that his mother fell from the ugly tree hitting every branch on the way down...
    yeah, I'm sure we all have a long list of what NOT to say, I know I do. I mentioned one of them to peter nap a few days ago and even he said "you can't say that to them". I assured him I've never said it to any of them, I've thought it, but never said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motofixxer View Post
    Remember, cops ask questions to gain RAS and to investigate you. Why give them more???
    can't stress this enough. They are not asking you questions in order to be nice

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    I heard a cop say once, does anyone know that guy(the one they were looking for) anyone have his phone number? Could someone call him and check and see if he is OK? We just want to know if he is OK. We just want to make sure he isn't in a ditch somewhere. That they were conscerned for his well being. They didn't know that he gave them the slip then joined back with the group and was sitting in front of em. We were all sitting there looking at him smiling as we listened to the cop's lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouser View Post
    can't stress this enough. They are not asking you questions in order to be nice
    "Police are looking for bodies", to quote what Boston T. Party has to say about this in "You & The Police". If they have stopped you, they are going to look until they find something or until you give them reason to have RAS or worse, PC. They are on a fishing expedition at our expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scouser View Post
    can't stress this enough. They are not asking you questions in order to be nice
    The role of police in our society is to find something 'you' have done wrong, and arrest or cite you for it. Talking to them only makes that process easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    Were you still in the car, or did he have you get out?
    No it was just an equipment pull. i thought it was funny how he backed all the way up to his car. young guy, probably not used to anyone refusing
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    i you call a CHP a CCW then you are really stupid. period.

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