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    CPL expired yesterday, awaiting renewal... a question.

    Hello,

    My CPL expired yesterday, and I don't expect my renewal to be ready for another week or so. I understand this affects my ability to transport handguns in a vehicle, but doesn't technically impact my ability to OC.
    Here's the thing, we are hosting a for profit event at my personal residence. OC is out of the question for this one, so I would like to CC. Is it legal to CC at my residence without a CPL?

    Any opinions appreciated, especially those with sources.

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    The CPL is required to cc OUTSIDE your home minus the 060 exemptions.
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    Thanks for the response. I just read rcw 9.41.050 and it clearly states I am gtg.

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    As long as you are at home, or at your business, no CPL is necessary.

    Curious, why would OC be out of question at you own home? It is YOUR home, and you can do as you please in your own home. For profit, or not, if your customers cannot understand that...I say tuff.

    PS: Good education opportunity. Get some of the OC pamphlets and pass them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr View Post
    As long as you are at home, or at your business, no CPL is necessary.

    Curious, why would OC be out of question at you own home? It is YOUR home, and you can do as you please in your own home. For profit, or not, if your customers cannot understand that...I say tuff.

    PS: Good education opportunity. Get some of the OC pamphlets and pass them out.
    I am not the victim of this restriction in this case, however often time a spouse/GF/BF may call for such limitations.

    If the party is co-workers then it may cost the man his job. IF it is members of his church, then it may cause him to not be welcome back. If it is family, it may cause much friction and it could make any further family communications difficult at best.

    However, I too wonder why he would not OC in his own home in this case.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbpeck View Post
    Hello,

    My CPL expired yesterday, and I don't expect my renewal to be ready for another week or so. I understand this affects my ability to transport handguns in a vehicle, but doesn't technically impact my ability to OC.
    Here's the thing, we are hosting a for profit event at my personal residence. OC is out of the question for this one, so I would like to CC. Is it legal to CC at my residence without a CPL?

    Any opinions appreciated, especially those with sources.
    You really had to ask and did not know? must be really new to carry and likely being the case here take time read and learn what you need to know to keep yourself out of trouble
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    If you are realistically expecting your CPL renewal in a "week" you are very fortunate to be living where you are. Many other places in the State are taking 1-2 months at the current time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    I am not the victim of this restriction in this case, however often time a spouse/GF/BF may call for such limitations.

    If the party is co-workers then it may cost the man his job. IF it is members of his church, then it may cause him to not be welcome back. If it is family, it may cause much friction and it could make any further family communications difficult at best.

    However, I too wonder why he would not OC in his own home in this case.
    I don't know, call it excuses maybe. I carry when go to Church, OC in the summer, and it is only covered in the winter because of the coat. (I don't wear a suit to church, thems "work" clothes, or at least used to be...I'm retired now)

    Family? if they don't like it, they can learn, need to learn, that it is not a real problem. I have a SIL that is an anti...his family super so. I OC into his house, and he knows, if he complains, grandkids will not see their grandma and grandpa...that is just the way it is. Haven't got him shooting yet, but at least he lets his kids shoot now...(15 years they've been married)

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