To Limit Federal Agencies’ Ammunition Purchases

Grapeshot said:

I'm disappointed then.

Would have thought that the availability of ammunition and the cost of same would have been a legitimate concern for those interested in staying proficient in the various aspects of our RKBA.

Click to expand...

Nah. All the hoarders are busy feeling smug for thinking they predicted something that nobody else did (when in fact everybody else did). Everybody else has already expressed their annoyance.

Frankly, I think DHS agents should be supplied with ammo in accordance with the poverty line.

No, strike that. I think DHS agents should be disarmed, right before being summarily fired.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if newbies can't buy .22, and to a lesser extent .223 and 9mm, then the 2nd amendment is on the slow road to irrelevance. It's just that simple. Keep that in mind next time you buy more than you need. Keep that in mind when faced with supporting or opposing government ammunition purchasing.

OC for ME said:

^^^THIS^^^

How about a private sector solution; ammo manufacturers do not sell to the fedgov more than a years worth of ammo. Congress critters could reduce the DHS's budget by the amount they have spent on ammo in next years budget. Better yet, defund the DHS.

Click to expand...

As a practical matter, defunding the DHS would require (wait for it)... A LAW.

Laws are the best thing since sliced bread when they limit government. Imagine how great the world would be if every law prohibiting some trivial and irrelevant personal action was traded for a law preventing some or other government action.

Kind of making me drool just thinking about it.

Waiting for "private sector solutions" in a distorted market, where government creates artificial and anti-productive incentives, is like waiting for hell to freeze over.

Otherwise, the parasitic and anti-productive military industrial complex would have shriveled to a decent, sustainable size decades ago.

marshaul said:

As a practical matter, defunding the DHS would require (wait for it)... A LAW.

Laws are the best thing since sliced bread when they limit government. Imagine how great the world would be if every law prohibiting some trivial and irrelevant personal action was traded for a law preventing some or other government action.

Kind of making me drool just thinking about it.

Waiting for "private sector solutions" in a distorted market, where government creates artificial and anti-productive incentives, is like waiting for hell to freeze over.

Otherwise, the parasitic and anti-productive military industrial complex would have shriveled to a decent, sustainable size decades ago.

Click to expand...

Obviously it takes a law the (wait for it)... FEDERAL BUDGET, also (wait for it)... NOT a NEW law. Funny how government works.

I like your trading laws scheme.

I will obey a law to not pick my nose in public, even when kids are not around, if the GFSZ Act is stricken from the books....fair trade it seems to me.

OC for ME said:

Obviously it takes a law the (wait for it)... FEDERAL BUDGET, also (wait for it)... NOT a NEW law. Funny how government works.

I like your trading laws scheme.

I will obey a law to not pick my nose in public, even when kids are not around, if the GFSZ Act is stricken from the books....fair trade it seems to me.

Click to expand...

With all due respect, you're delusional if you think we've had a president since Bush I who would even consider submitting a budget with anything but increased "defense" spending.

marshaul said:

With all due respect, you're delusional if you think we've had a president since Bush I who would even consider submitting a budget with anything but increased "defense" spending.

Click to expand...

Calling me delusional if I think 'X' is not being respectful. Anyway...

I do not disagree with your assessment of how the fedgov really works. I merely pointed to the fact that a new (a law that did did not exist before, the "budget law" is technically a "new" law every year) law is not required to be passed to accomplish a great many good things that limit the fedgov.

OC for ME said:

Calling me delusional if I think 'X' is not being respectful. Anyway...

Click to expand...

If you say so.

I do not disagree with your assessment of how the fedgov really works. I merely pointed to the fact that a new (a law that did did not exist before, the "budget law" is technically a "new" law every year) law is not required to be passed to accomplish a great many good things that limit the fedgov.

Click to expand...

Yes, the budget is a law, it must be passed. But that doesn't change the fact that for all intents and purposes, its basic structure is dictated by the executive. And, for what boil down to reasons of petty partisan politics, the likelihood of another president willing to take what will amount to sole blame for "slashing defense spending" is basically zero.

I would never think to oppose any law that congress might pass limiting the executive, itself, its spending, its purchases, or anything else.

... So Anyways ...

.. Back on topic, have we heard any new news on this?

Batousaii said:

.. Back on topic, have we heard any new news on this?

Click to expand...

Seems that DHS is ignoring any attempts at control.

DHS Seeks Millions More Rounds of Ammunition
Market survey asks companies if they can provide 2 million bullets within 30-60 day period
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 3, 2013


The Department of Homeland Security has released a market survey asking companies if they are able to provide 2 million rounds of ammunition within a short time period, increasing concerns that the federal agency is continuing its arms build up in preparation for domestic unrest.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-seeks-millions-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

The nonsense that DHS has been up to reminds me of a independent feature film that is being made.
http://www.graystatemovie.com/

The Plan of Attack - Marketing GRAY STATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqFNQBxL-Fo

Thanks for this zack, I had not heard of Gray State.

Looks terrific.

HighValueWarrior said:

Thanks for this zack, I had not heard of Gray State.

Looks terrific.

Click to expand...

The trailer was played on a Radio morning show I was listening to last month, I was surprised I have not heard about it earlier.