sudden valley gunner
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No (meaning I oppose). And it will always be no in handing more power to government. Every time you ask for a law you are asking for more violence by the government.
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POLL: Would you support or oppose 'universal background checks?'
- Thread starter Dave Workman
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amlevin
Regular Member
Make NICS available to all
Why not just open NICS up to eveyone who wants to sell a firearm so they can get a "YES" or "NO" on their prospective buyer.
How many here won't sell without a "bill of sale", seeing a D/L and/or CPL? I can't see anyone here actually wanting to provide a firearm to a prohibited person but the system is pretty much set up so only commercial sellers have any means to check one's current status.
As for me, mandatory checks will translate to "registration" either from the beginning, or very shortly thereafter.
Why not just open NICS up to eveyone who wants to sell a firearm so they can get a "YES" or "NO" on their prospective buyer.
How many here won't sell without a "bill of sale", seeing a D/L and/or CPL? I can't see anyone here actually wanting to provide a firearm to a prohibited person but the system is pretty much set up so only commercial sellers have any means to check one's current status.
As for me, mandatory checks will translate to "registration" either from the beginning, or very shortly thereafter.
MSG Laigaie
Campaign Veteran
This is Truth!
And I noticed that this is ShanLi's first post. Welcome to OCDO mate.
fire suppressor
Regular Member
the wording of the question could be considered a little confusing but I will never support any law that would impose any kind of firearm restrictions of any kind. Back ground check, magazine capacity, gun free zones, I do not care what you call it I will not support it as it is in a direct violation on my 2nd commandment rights
ak56
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Difdi
Regular Member
Do you need a background check to learn to read? A psych evaluation to determine the validity of your religion? An IQ test to express a political opinion? A license to qualify for a jury trial?
Then why should we want such things for our other unalienable rights?
Then why should we want such things for our other unalienable rights?
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
An intelligence test to be on a jury?
Difdi
Regular Member
You might end up disqualifying more than just a potential juror that way...
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
I said to be ON the jury, not to to have a jury.
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sirpuma
Regular Member
I neither support nor oppose UBC. At no point would a UBC be effective. People wouldn't abide by it anyway so there's no way it could be enforced. Personally I don't support most of the gun laws we currently have on the books. I don't believe that possession of a firearm in and of itself should make someone a criminal. A persons actions is what makes them criminals. I also don't believe in our prison system. I say properly punish people for their evil deeds and be done with it. There's no reason we as tax payers should be paying for the housing, clothing, feeding and all the toys for the incarcerated.
Lammo
Regular Member
What's the difference between a duck?
Can't answer as presented. Given choice of Support or Oppose my answer is OPPOSE for all of the reasons stated above and a few that nobody has even thought of.
Can't answer as presented. Given choice of Support or Oppose my answer is OPPOSE for all of the reasons stated above and a few that nobody has even thought of.
Damiansar-15
Regular Member
Agreed
I think if politicans were truly serious about background checks, they would open up the system to private checks, e.g. anyone can go online or call NICS phone number to run a Driver's License or State provided ID. This way, citizens conducting private sales would not be burdened with additional expenses. 1) they need to fix the current system before implementing another junk process 2) Work with pro-rights organizations to develop a solution for private sales/gifts to friends/relatives.
There are a lot of negotiating elements that could be used to do the right thing on background checks, e.g. All States agree to acknowledge State issued licenses, BATFE policies on NFA items/taxes, etc... There are a lot of BS policies/laws in place Federally that could be removed in exchange for universal background checks using a public access NICS system that does not create registration records...
I think if politicans were truly serious about background checks, they would open up the system to private checks, e.g. anyone can go online or call NICS phone number to run a Driver's License or State provided ID. This way, citizens conducting private sales would not be burdened with additional expenses. 1) they need to fix the current system before implementing another junk process 2) Work with pro-rights organizations to develop a solution for private sales/gifts to friends/relatives.
There are a lot of negotiating elements that could be used to do the right thing on background checks, e.g. All States agree to acknowledge State issued licenses, BATFE policies on NFA items/taxes, etc... There are a lot of BS policies/laws in place Federally that could be removed in exchange for universal background checks using a public access NICS system that does not create registration records...
LarryM
Regular Member
Well lessee: In WA we already have BG checks - probably some of the most comprehensive in the nation. For handgun purchases, we have Local PD, WSP, NICS, DOL pistol registry, mental health and except for the local check for handgun purchase w/o CPL, all are fingerprint based...
(oh, and whoever doesn't believe NICS deletes inquiries after 24 hours, I have a rather large bridge I can sell ya...)
Seems pretty "universal" to me...
(oh, and whoever doesn't believe NICS deletes inquiries after 24 hours, I have a rather large bridge I can sell ya...)
Seems pretty "universal" to me...
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Dave Workman
Regular Member
And the results are in...so most people understood precisely what was being asked.
http://www.examiner.com/article/poll-of-n-w-gun-owners-shows-background-check-opposition
http://www.examiner.com/article/poll-of-n-w-gun-owners-shows-background-check-opposition
Kryteon
Regular Member
But the IRS said they would keep the records private and administer all background checks fairly!
112% of registered Democrats favor Universal Background Checks.
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
Naw the IRS would audit you and then publish everything you ever did for the world to see.