Since an agreement looks unlikely in the near future, Illinois may very well default to constitutional carry, which would drive the Cook County Marxists insane with anger.
Last edited by minarchist; 05-02-2013 at 10:08 PM.
Blood will flow in the streets!
If Illinois gets constitutional carry, that will be the richest poetic justice of the century. I will be in a state of pure, unadulterated, non-stop euphoria for days.
People will be able to carry in the emperor's city.
Stupid democrat don't know that NY district appellate court decisions don't mean squat in the 7th district .. fact that SCOTUS did not take up the NY case uuuh, means nothing.
But that's pretty typical -- when a person has no argument they call the other person "scary" ... its been done on the forum as well and the moderators and administrators seem to let it go here ...
I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I can carry or not ... I carry when I want to ... did it in Illinois years ago and still do it today.
My grandmother was there in 1919 when the Chicago PD took sides in the race riot and refused to intervene to protect any Black person. It was recently returned Black doughboys who raided the National Guard armories, armed themselves and protected their own neighborhoods until the governor called out the National Guard to restore order.
--- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.
I'm assuming Illinois doesn't have state preemption for firearms laws.
So if the state reverts to "Constitutional carry" it would still allow localities to have their bans, right?
"It's not important how many people I've killed. What's important is how I get along with the people who are still alive" - Jimmy the Tulip
As to the preemption part , you are right. Each home rule city could make their own regulations and some would be much worse than others. Also it would be almost impossible to know , let alone follow , each areas requirements.
Are you saying that the requirement for a FOID was not part of the law that was struck down?
So that means no one from out of state would be able to carry in IL?...
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)
If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor
I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)
I for one would like to see Illinois go the Constitutional Carry route (albeit FOID-based).
The lack of preemption will just mean years of follow-up judicial boxing with Chicago. Meanwhile, the utter lack of violent crime instances by FOID Card holders over the coming months and years will be a severe blow to the credibility of the anti-gunners in Illinois and elsewhere.
Constitutional Carry in the majority of the State of Illinois will only strengthen the Pro-Second Amendment movement throughout the State and the rest of this great nation.
Last edited by OC4me; 05-06-2013 at 12:11 AM.
Yep. The blood of criminals who think they're still attacking unarmed sheep.Originally Posted by eye95
If they behaved like civilized humans, they wouldn't be perforated.
While I don't wish for anyone to be injured (well, OK, there are a couple people), I can't work up too much upset for a criminal receiving the natural consequences of his actions.
Originally Posted by MLK, JrOriginally Posted by MSG LaigaieOriginally Posted by Proverbs 27:12Originally Posted by Proverbs 31:17
Here is some info for Illinois NON-residents on transporting firearms. This does NOT allow any "carry".
Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. In order to comply with the Criminal Code, the Wildlife Code, and the Firearm Owner’s Identification Act, when transporting a firearm, it must be:
- broken down in a non-functioning state; or
- not immediately accessible; or
- unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner’s Identification Card.
For a list of other commonly asked questions on transporting firearms in Illinois, please refer to the Transport Your Firearm Legally brochure available on our website.
Remember we are not talking about a law here that could be circumvented by a home rule~~we are talking a federal court order.
Last edited by WalkingWolf; 05-05-2013 at 11:16 PM.
Originally Posted by Primus
I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.
U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington
The 7th has ruled a complete ban on carry unconstitutional, home rule means diddly. Not only does the ruling affect Illinois and counties and cities within, it affects all states within the 7th's jurisdiction. You guys are thinking along the lines of a city passing their own laws that may be stiffer than state that ARE CONSTITUTIONAL. If the courts have ruled a practice or law is not constitutional, it does not matter who enacts it, it is void.
Originally Posted by Primus