It is bothersome to me that we all advocate for only ONE type of open carry of arms (specifically, firearms) Doesn't the second amendment protect the right to bear ARMS, not just FIREARMS? Why should a person not under disability be prevented from open carrying a sword, club, knife, etc?
He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty
The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776
I certainly believe that people should be able to use any arms that they can carry themselves. Knives, guns, throwing-stars, bricks, sticks, nun-chuks.
Only if they are allowed by your militia.
As the forum is dedicated to the lawful, responsible open carry of handguns, that is what is advocated here.
As individuals I believe that we advocate for the second amendment and how it applies to lawful citizens.
OCDO is a privately owned and run site, there are no rights on a non government website, only the privileges the site administrators and moderators allow. Open carry of properly holstered handguns is the site focus, there are other sites that do focus on other arms.
Originally Posted by Primus
I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.
U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
"Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)
Could my old 1973 Cadillac Fleetwood, thats built like a Tank be considered a deadly weapon? Or being the driver of said tank make me a deadly weapon? LOL
Not sure the 2A protects all weapons. For example in WA butterfly knives are illegal, and numerous cities have various convoluted laws concerning blade length etc. Yet we have pretty decent, and uniform laws through out the state for firearms.
"The beauty of the Second Amenment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson
"Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux
I don't know if you were joking or being serious. If you were being serious google "relief from disability".
ETA: Then again maybe you were being serious but for a different reason. I do believe it's unconstitutional to deny a felon their rights after their sentence is served.
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I am fully aware of the owners' rights to guide the discussion in whatever way they see fit... I respect and support that right fully (each person is the ONLY person who has any RIGHTS to said individual's person and/or efforts and result of those efforts) I was merely interested in others' viewpoint on this particular subject... perhaps it should be moved to "Social Lounge" or another appropriate sub-forum?
The 2A restricts the behavior of government. In that sense, it protects the enumerated Right.
What are the arms mentioned in the 2A? It does not specifically say, so we must look to the historical context for the answer. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not new to the US. It existed in England prior to colonization. The idea came here with English colonists. The origin of the English RKBA were laws that created a Duty to Keep and Bear Arms. Those arms were originally swords, later bows and arrows, later yet crossbows, and finally firearms. Clearly the arms covered by the duty and later by the Right were the arms that typically have personal civilian uses but, in a pinch, could be used as one's personal military weapon.
At the time of the Framing, that would have included knives, long guns, hand guns, and ammunition. We can look to the militia laws of the time for a list of arms that militia members were required to own. Today's analogs are knives, pistols, revolvers, shotguns, rifles, and the like. Oh, and the ammo to feed them.
There are a few edged weapons that I have an affinity towards in case of HTHC - my Cold Steel machete, SOG tomahawk, Ka-Bar BK-2 and my Boker Magnum (completely discounting my really long blades, and a 7' long Assegai. Yes, I am ready for the "Zombie Apocalypse"). But, should my guns/ammo become inaccessible to me for some reason (i.e. - confiscated), and I haven't been killed during the process of their being made inaccessible, I will still have some defensive tools available (assuming we still have the Constitution as written). Pax...
True!The 2A protects nothing - the people's resistance to disarmament does the protecting. The Constitution (amendments included) merely delineates the powers of government. The actual protection is left as an exercise to the reader.
In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.