Cops said he had a permit to carry a concealed weapon and is unlikely to face charges.
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A reasonable response ...
Thread: man shots self while bowling.
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Last edited by Da Rat Bastid; 05-18-2013 at 12:10 AM.
Pocket, revolver, discharged when the bowling ball bumped it.
Sounds like NAA? I wonder if he had it properly positioned (safety notch), or if it was resting on a round due to his own fault.
I'm shopping for one of these right now, so if any of them are prone to AD when bumped I'd like to know. Not big on bowling though!
Considering there were witnesses I might have to admit there is a actual case of a gun ND without a finger on the trigger.
Originally Posted by Primus
Media alert: Seems like MSN is trying to make a trend of stories of bumbling gun owners who shoot themselves. On their version of this story they had several links to related stories of other incidents, all with disparaging titles. Trying to portray gun owners as stupid and running any mishap they can find as national news.
This might be an issue with the hammer not cocked. The gun can discharge without a trigger pull if it's accidentally left resting on a live round rather than a safety notch, because there's no transfer bar type safety. All it takes is a little pressure, not much, if there's contact, so a bump or fall can definitely do it. Maybe the bowling guy missed the safety notch when loading and had it sitting on a round, operator error.check CA "approved" handgun list .... they require drop testing .... horizontal, vertical, etc...hammer cocked ...
On the other hand, NAA previously had an issue with double discharge (two rounds going off when the hammer fell on one round, and of course only one of those would be in line with the barrel) which they attributed to a certain brand of ammo. If a round untouched by the firing pin in a revolver can discharge, to me that's strange. That's why I'm curious about this particular AD!
Thanks Wolf, I didn't know about that percussion issue. That type sounds fun!
But I think the rimfire models are affected, with this note from the company:
I wanted a gun this size, but I think I'm going to hold off on them until I find out more.NAA has recently learned that the use of PMC .22 caliber ammunition (Magnum and LR) may affect the performance of its revolvers. Specifically, NAA has become aware of a phenomenon where an inadvertent, double-discharge (two rounds simultaneously discharging, one aligned with the barrel and the other out of battery) may occur when PMC Brand ammunition is used in NAA .22 caliber revolvers. ... At this time, NAA recommends that its customers, owners and users of NAA .22 revolvers DO NOT USE ANY PMC .22 CALIBER ammunition (Magnum and/or LR) in any model of NAA revolvers.
Is this possible with today's semi-auto handguns with slides? What about 1911, since it has a hammer?
It sounds like, from the replies in this thread, that the gentleman did not have his revolver properly configured, is that correct?
Originally Posted by Primus
Hard to say! Even my assumption that this was an NAA mini is a guess, but it sounds like one. I'm also going to guess that he didn't have it properly in the safety notch, because the bullet was found on the floor and there was no mention of the gun cylinder flying out or anything like that. But that is only speculation.Defrock: It sounds like, from the replies in this thread, that the gentleman did not have his revolver properly configured, is that correct?
That's a good theory to explain it! They've expanded the advisory to any ammo made in Philippines, so it can show up under other brands sometimes. I think I'm going to pursue a different type of pocket gun for the time being.WalkingWolf: Interesting, I cannot imagine how a round could fire out of battery, with a properly constructed round. The only possible way I can think of is if that ammo rim was extra thick and rearward movement of the cylinder crushed the rim out of battery.