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    Here's a "DUH!" moment - don't leave your gun in your car

    http://www.kspr.com/news/kspr-cops-w...,1215074.story
    Cops warn gun owners not to leave guns in vehicles
    Officers say careless security could have potentially dangerous consequences
    I can see someone in a rural area not locking the car, or leaving a gun in the car on her own land.
    But in the city???

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    Notice they didn't say it's an actual problem, just a potential one.

    They should also do a story on expensive stereos leading to break ins.

    Except that wouldn't have the "GUNS!! GUNS!! GUNS!!" angle they love to push.
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    Don't leave a gun in your car. Someone might steal it.

    Don't openly carry a handgun. Someone might grab it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron73440 View Post
    Notice they didn't say it's an actual problem, just a potential one.

    They should also do a story on expensive stereos leading to break ins.

    Except that wouldn't have the "GUNS!! GUNS!! GUNS!!" angle they love to push.
    +1 The ridiculous idea of blaming the victim has always bugged me. If I remember right there is a large city here in Washington that made it illegal to warm up your car on a cold winter morning because it was too tempting to car thieves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    +1 The ridiculous idea of blaming the victim has always bugged me.
    +1* Of course the victim gets blamed--easy target. The victim doesn't run away; they can actually find him and direct their frustration at him.


    *Unless you're Gunnery Sergeant Hartman discovering an unlocked footlocker with a jelly donut inside.
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    The stupidity of people continues to stun me.

    Every year during chistmas shopping we repeatedly hear "don't leave your packages in view inside your car at the mall parking lot" followed by numerous reports of people breaking into cars at the mall to steal stuff that was in plain sight. You just can't fix stupid.

    If I have to leave my gun in the car where there is any security concerns, I field strip and stick the barrel in my pocket.

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    If I can't leave my gun in my car then I can't carry.

    I can't take it into work or most restaurants here.

    I also imagine even carrying part of it into work would be considered the same as taking the whole thing in,
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    If I can't OC in a restaurant, I don't reward that restaurant with my business.

    There have been a couple of times I'm forced to go somewhere I can't carry at all, either OC or CC, such as for jury duty and beyond the security gates at airports. In those cases I leave it at home.

    I NEVER lock it in my car! The best car alarm in the world will not stop a smash and grab.

    Except perhaps this car alarm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    If I can't OC in a restaurant, I don't reward that restaurant with my business.
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.
    I'm sorry to hear of your plight!

    Thankfully, I live in Colorado, where both OC and CC into an establishment that serves liquor, even a pure bar, is perfectly legal. Restaurants -- no problem. I eat out all the time and have yet to be turned away.

    Despite the recent collective aneurysm in our capitol, we're working hard to oust 'em and overturn the recent legislation on Constitutional grounds. 54 of 64 of our state's sheriffs have joined the effort, if they're not actually leading the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.
    Cheer up! Legislation is i front of your governor for signature that would allow carry in places that serve alcohol. It looks good for getting signed.

    And I thought we wee talking about OC here, not CC. (Yes, I know in NC it makes no difference - for right now.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Don't leave a gun in your car. Someone might steal it.

    Don't openly carry a handgun. Someone might grab it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.
    Same here in AZ, without a permit.

    ETA, you can not open carry in a place that serves alcohol here. CC with permit only assuming no gunbuster sign. And almost every restaurant that serves booze has a sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.
    On another note, your neighboring state to the South looks like it may allow CC in bars and restaurants. Article. I don't like some of the restrictions, but do you think SC may follow suit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    http://www.kspr.com/news/kspr-cops-w...,1215074.story

    I can see someone in a rural area not locking the car, or leaving a gun in the car on her own land.
    But in the city???
    They have a point, but these same police unions should also "advise" the legislature to repeal places off limits to minimize people leaving guns in cars.


    I've left a gun in my car from time to time, but I don't have any gun bumper stickers on my car or anything of that nature.

    It's a tough call though, I don't like leaving a gun in my car but sometimes when I run quick errands about town, I don't feel like dressing for concealed carry and it's just convenient to have a gun in the car.

    If I lived in a bad areas I would definitely not leave a gun in the car, but it's still a personal choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared View Post
    They have a point, but these same police unions should also "advise" the legislature to repeal places off limits to minimize people leaving guns in cars.
    +1 BRAVO ! Flawless logic. They won't get it, I'm sure. And how does this thought increase their pensions???

    Wait until obamalama care starts affecting cops and their unions ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Cheer up! Legislation is i front of your governor for signature that would allow carry in places that serve alcohol. It looks good for getting signed.

    And I thought we wee talking about OC here, not CC. (Yes, I know in NC it makes no difference - for right now.)

    stay safe.
    No, not even close to his desk, it's just collecting dust in the Senate rules committee with no action for several weeks after being passed from the House. The chair of the rules committee is the guy that screwed restaurant carry last year, so this is far from happening.

    And our gov, he is 100% pure non-committal bought an paid for politician. He could veto it, sign it, or not sign and let it become law. I suspect he will have to call his fat cat supporters to get his instructions, if it ever gets to his desk.

    Everyone 'thinks' because he is a republican he would be a pro-gun, and the NRA has rated him high, based on absolutely nothing. He has not stated his position, pro or con, he has never dealt with any gun legislation as mayor of Charlotte, he apparently refused to complete the NRA questionnaire. His only statement regarding firearms is "I think we have enough gun laws".

    NC politics is as corrupt and ineffective as Chicago politics, the "old boy" system is alive and well and you would think that they all suffer some form of palsy with all the "wink wink" and "nudge nudge" that is going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Hope you like McDonalds, because if you come to NC, that about the only 'restaurant' you can carry in. The law here is if they sell any alcoholic beverage, concealed carry is not permitted. Since just about every place except the fast food chains sell at least beer, your choices will be slim.
    We NEVER go to McDonalds. There are plenty of restaurant that do not serve alcohol, we eat at IHOP in Spring Lake, Brass Kettle in Sanford, plus there are several Mexican restaurants that do not serve alcohol. Even with the upcoming change it is unlawful to drink and CC, most CCers I know have long carried in ALL restaurants, the change is all a bunch of hoopla to bit by bit outlaw OC, or only allow it with a permit. US V Black paved the way to conceal carry just about anywhere as long as it is done properly. No acts to bring attention, and there is no RAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    If I can't OC in a restaurant, I don't reward that restaurant with my business.

    There have been a couple of times I'm forced to go somewhere I can't carry at all, either OC or CC, such as for jury duty and beyond the security gates at airports. In those cases I leave it at home.

    I NEVER lock it in my car! The best car alarm in the world will not stop a smash and grab.

    Except perhaps this car alarm...

    I OC everywhere, even in Pizza Hut which serves alcohol, I just have to adjust what I OC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    The stupidity of people continues to stun me.

    Every year during chistmas shopping we repeatedly hear "don't leave your packages in view inside your car at the mall parking lot" followed by numerous reports of people breaking into cars at the mall to steal stuff that was in plain sight. You just can't fix stupid.

    If I have to leave my gun in the car where there is any security concerns, I field strip and stick the barrel in my pocket.
    same here. I pull the barrel and mag out if for some reason it has to stay in the car (such as work). it would take someone quite a bit of time to find an m&p40 mag plus ammo, let alone trying to find a barrel.

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    As soon as I get around to it, I am going to put a welded eye bolt on the floor board of the Mrs car. Add a secure cable and heavy padlock will keep the gun secure except for the most determined thief. And then a their carrying a torch, or cutoff grinder, or bolt cutter in the daytime might get police calls, before they ever find her car. She does not want to be seen putting a gun in the trunk inviting theft, and damage to the trunk. A good padlock through most trigger guards will prevent theft, and on some guns prevent discharge.
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    Here's a "DUH!" moment - don't leave your gun in your car

    Quote Originally Posted by dkutchukk View Post
    same here. I pull the barrel and mag out if for some reason it has to stay in the car (such as work). it would take someone quite a bit of time to find an m&p40 mag plus ammo, let alone trying to find a barrel.
    Do you really think that would stop someone from stealing the rest of the gun? I don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Do you really think that would stop someone from stealing the rest of the gun? I don't.


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    It makes it worthless to a crook, in the same vain that they may take the change out of the ashtray, but leave the bag of stale fries on the console. And even if they do take it, they do not have a functioning gun to harm another victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    As soon as I get around to it, I am going to put a welded eye bolt on the floor board of the Mrs car. Add a secure cable and heavy padlock will keep the gun secure except for the most determined thief. And then a their carrying a torch, or cutoff grinder, or bolt cutter in the daytime might get police calls, before they ever find her car. She does not want to be seen putting a gun in the trunk inviting theft, and damage to the trunk. A good padlock through most trigger guards will prevent theft, and on some guns prevent discharge.
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