DHS has a strange ammo shopping list.

The DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center requires the following items, Exact Match Only, to the following:
LI 001: THIS AWARD WILL RESULT IN AN ALL OR NONE PROCUREMENT. PARTIAL SHIPMENTS ARE ACCEPTABLE. NO BULK AMMINITION WILL BE ACCEPTABLE.
24 HOURS PRIOR TO AMMUNITION DELIVERIES. DELIVERIES ARE TO BE MADE BY 3:00 P.M. MST; HOWEVER, EXCEPTION TO THIS MAY BE REQUIRED BY THE GOVERNMENT WITH 24 HOUR NOTIFICATION. PALLETS ARE TO BE DELIVERED ON THE TAIL OF THE DELIVERY TRAILER/TRUCK.
45 COLT/LONG COLT total rounds 4000, 200, bx;
LI 002: 45 ACP 230GR JHP 1000 rounds per box total rounds 20,000, 20, mx;
LI 003: 22 LONG RIFLE CCI GREEN TAG COMPETITION RIMFIRE AMMUNITION total rounds 40,000, 400, bx;
LI 004: .30 -30 150 GRAIN total rounds 4,680, 234, bx;
LI 005: 12 GAUGE #8 BIRDSHOT WINCHESTER AA LIGHT TARGET AA128 total rounds 20,00, 80, bx;
LI 006: 410 GAUGE #9 WINCHESTER AA TARGET AA4109 total rounds 10,000, 40, bx;
LI 007: .357 MAGNUM 180 GRAIN JHP total rounds 6,000, 300, bx;
LI 008: 7.69X39MM 123 GRAIN total rounds 5,000, 250, bx;

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https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...&id=6739147457eec181fdb1930a00c5c21a&_cview=0


Sounds like someone at DHS is just tired of finding empty shelves at Walmart.

Sounds like someone at DHS has a Taurus Judge.

eye95 said:

Sounds like someone at DHS has a Taurus Judge.

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I have been wanting to shoot one for a while now, they look like a blast.

Can't say I have heard of "7.69X39MM"

zack991 said:

I have been wanting to shoot one for a while now, they look like a blast.

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I own a Circuit Judge. It is a fun concept.

leitung said:

Can't say I have heard of "7.69X39MM"

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AK47 standard ammo.

Freedom1Man said:

AK47 standard ammo.

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7.62x39

i got a raging judge ultralite, rare pistol, 7rd cylinder!

leitung said:

Can't say I have heard of "7.69X39MM"

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It seems to be a common typo. I did a few searches for it and came back with 7.62x39
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?topic=65253.0th
http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/topic/83572-cheapest-769x39-out-there/

I'd like to meet the guy who can launch 180 grain .357 magnums (next to last item on the OP list). Even the venerable 158 grain .357 magnums will wake you up, even out of Smith 686 4" barrel. 180 grains at magnum velocity ought to be a wrist-cracker, needing a hydraulic recoil system.

Unless DHS has a buncha lever-action rifles chambered in .357 mag, I guess.

Citizen said:

I'd like to meet the guy who can launch 180 grain .357 magnums (next to last item on the OP list). Even the venerable 158 grain .357 magnums will wake you up, even out of Smith 686 4" barrel. 180 grains at magnum velocity ought to be a wrist-cracker, needing a hydraulic recoil system.

Unless DHS has a buncha lever-action rifles chambered in .357 mag, I guess.

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You're over stating that. The recoil on a Colt Trooper MKIII frame is not bad with that.

Freedom1Man said:

You're over stating that. The recoil on a Colt Trooper MKIII frame is not bad with that.

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Uh-huh. Suuuuure. OK. If you're he-man enough to launch those, I'll consider that I've "met the guy".

But, you ain't gettin' me to shoot 180 grains at magnum velocities from no plain ol' revolver. Not more'n once, anyway. My masochist days of proving I can endure pain are a little ways behind me.




EETA: I just looked it up on the S&W forum. A poster said the .357 Trooper is almost identical in size to the S&W L frame. OK. So, its not a "small" medium-frame like a K frame. But, I still ain't shootin' it with 180 grain magnums.

ETA: Oh, I'm very suspicious now. I just looked up that MkIII on wikipedia. Says its a medium-frame revolver. Forget it! You just keep your 180 grain magnum loads to yerself. I don't want nuthin' whatever to do with it. I know how much 158 gr nothing-special magnums kick in an L-frame (large frame) S&W 686. You ain't tricking me into trying 180 grains in a medium framed revolver. Nope. No way.




And, what the heck does DHS want with that ammo, anyway. Are they totin' Desert Eagles over there?

Citizen said:

And, what the heck does DHS want with that ammo, anyway. Are they totin' Desert Eagles over there?

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It reads like a personal shopping list.

Try .444 Marlin 340(?) grain round in hand gun.

The 180grain are for the .357 mag, you would love the .357 supermag.

Citizen said:

I'd like to meet the guy who can launch 180 grain .357 magnums (next to last item on the OP list). Even the venerable 158 grain .357 magnums will wake you up, even out of Smith 686 4" barrel. 180 grains at magnum velocity ought to be a wrist-cracker, needing a hydraulic recoil system.

Unless DHS has a buncha lever-action rifles chambered in .357 mag, I guess.

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Can't be any worse than a 300gr 44