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    Please come help me address this U.K. lunatic

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    He made a very long post chock full of misstatements of fact and logical buffoonery. Sure would be nice if some of you could stop by and post a reply or three. Americans welcome! Anyone from the U.K. who can counter some of his claims which I strongly suspect are false would be even better.

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    No thank you - he wishes to wage a war of words and I do not play such silly games.

    Let him stew in his own pot as he has wrought.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Here is something from the motherland that he might read though - puts a completely different spin on living in such a sweet, warm environment.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/t...he-shires.html
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Please come help me address this U.K. lunatic

    When the Brits allowed themselves to be disarmed, the police, for the most part, were also unarmed. That seems to have changed. Now the Brits do not have arms for the most important reason to have arms: To protect themselves from an armed rogue government.

    Clearly now that government has become VERY well armed.

    Dumbass move on the part of the British subjectry.


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    I was in Missouri during the voter referendum on CC in '98 and worked at a university, and I was having a letter to the editor published in support about every other week. At a university function I had a Brit come up to me and start a debate on guns in general; after it was clear to him he was loosing he puffed himself up in self-righteousness like only a Brit or Frog can do and said...

    brit} WELL; if it was up to me we'd just go out and pick them ALL up!!!!
    me} And exactly how did that work out for you lime sucking sons-of-bitches the last time you tried it?
    brit} WELL!!
    me} Why don't you shove a lime up your @ and go back where you came from.

    He went and got his wife and as he was leaving; it was near the end of June, I gave him a cheery wave and said "HAPPY 4th OF JULY; see ya at the picnic?".

    That was on a Friday night, middle of the next week there was a function in the auditorium I was in charge of and the university President (prior Air Force officer) come over to me and asked what went on between Nigel and me. So I told him, he closed his eyes, hung his head and shook it. I said "Pick a fight with a Jarhead, don't expect the Marquis of Queensberry".
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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    I was in Missouri during the voter referendum on CC in '98 and worked at a university, and I was having a letter to the editor published in support about every other week. At a university function I had a Brit come up to me and start a debate on guns in general; after it was clear to him he was loosing he puffed himself up in self-righteousness like only a Brit or Frog can do and said...

    brit} WELL; if it was up to me we'd just go out and pick them ALL up!!!!
    me} And exactly how did that work out for you lime sucking sons-of-bitches the last time you tried it?
    brit} WELL!!
    me} Why don't you shove a lime up your @ and go back where you came from.

    He went and got his wife and as he was leaving; it was near the end of June, I gave him a cheery wave and said "HAPPY 4th OF JULY; see ya at the picnic?".

    That was on a Friday night, middle of the next week there was a function in the auditorium I was in charge of and the university President (prior Air Force officer) come over to me and asked what went on between Nigel and me. So I told him, he closed his eyes, hung his head and shook it. I said "Pick a fight with a Jarhead, don't expect the Marquis of Queensberry".
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    The site demands that I register as an author before I may be allowed to comment. Not worth my time and energy to play that game.

    Were I to comment, it would be:

    1) http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.co...-civilization/ - especially when someone is saying only the army and the police should be allowed to have guns.

    2) http://www.handgunrepairshop.com/Why...rry_a_gun.html

    3) There is no way to make a nation gun-free. Pass all the laws you want regarding contraband, turn-ins (with or without just compensation), highly restrictive special permissions, and the like. Those laws will only be obeyed by the law-abiding citizenry, leaving all the criminals as essentially the only ones with guns. Evil exists, has always existed, and probably will always exist. That means, for purposes of this discussion, that criminals will continue to have guns. Now, if they would only use those guns against each other untill only one is left standing, the notion that nobody needs or should have guns might actually be correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
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    He made a very long post chock full of misstatements of fact and logical buffoonery. Sure would be nice if some of you could stop by and post a reply or three. Americans welcome! Anyone from the U.K. who can counter some of his claims which I strongly suspect are false would be even better.

    Thanks!

    - since9
    Actually, if you read what he says, he's Australian. I sometimes am asked if I'm Australian, along with "well you must be Irish" .. "Scottish then" .. "no you can't be English, you don't sound English". Well, I'm a mutt. English on my mother's side, and a mix of Irish Catholic and Scots-Irish Protestant on my dad's side, and that gets real confusing at times.

    Doesn't take away the fact that his comments are emanating from between the wrong set of cheeks but us actual Brits don't like being lumped in with those whose forebears received free passage to the other side of the world.

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    The man doesn't need addressing me ol joe! he looks like a looney bin! can't argue with blokes like that. An asylum he needs. Too proud to me he looks and loves tyranny. Where is your constitution? Fight you must against your powers and address the sane ones in power. Got to fight your way out. yes I enjoy oc my gun. the founders gave their lives fighting you blokes of yesteryear. look up kris anne hall and she will explain your former gun rights. tata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    The man doesn't need addressing me ol joe! he looks like a looney bin! can't argue with blokes like that. An asylum he needs. Too proud to me he looks and loves tyranny. Where is your constitution? Fight you must against your powers and address the sane ones in power. Got to fight your way out. yes I enjoy oc my gun. the founders gave their lives fighting you blokes of yesteryear. look up kris anne hall and she will explain your former gun rights. tata.
    Did it for you - note that while see does not speak directly, individually to guns, she is an constitutional originalist.

    http://www.theblaze.com/author/krisannehallesq/

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...tor-assistants
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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Did it for you - note that while see does not speak directly, individually to guns, she is an constitutional originalist.

    http://www.theblaze.com/author/krisannehallesq/

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...tor-assistants
    Yes I too am a constitutional originalist. The British, God bless them for their fish and chips, and i ate a lot while in school over there, need to understand their history and their rights incorporated into our constitution. Kris ann Hall gives a 1hr talk on it and a 5 hr talk on it. She will be coming here in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    The man doesn't need addressing me ol joe! he looks like a looney bin! can't argue with blokes like that. An asylum he needs. Too proud to me he looks and loves tyranny. Where is your constitution? Fight you must against your powers and address the sane ones in power. Got to fight your way out. yes I enjoy oc my gun. the founders gave their lives fighting you blokes of yesteryear. look up kris anne hall and she will explain your former gun rights. tata.
    Did it for you - note that while see does not speak directly, individually to guns, she is an constitutional originalist.

    http://www.theblaze.com/author/krisannehallesq/

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...tor-assistants
    She actually has her own website

    http://www.krisannehall.com/

    and the talks mentioned in the previous post are available to buy on dvd from there

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    Unless i read it wrong that guy was from australia.

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    The U.S. doesn't have a gun problem. The U.S. has a prohibition problem.

    Damn puritanism has been a plague on us from the beginning.

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    I can tell you from personal experience, living in England for several years.

    The English I talked to HATED the fact that they gave their gun "rights" away. Now they have big brother in their small intestine and sky high taxes.

    And folks in Ireland ? Many still have their evil assault rifles.

    He's just a liberal living in a liberal's fantasy land.

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