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    We have gone to the governor!!!

    Today, May 22nd, it went to the Governor. He has till July 14th to sign or veto or it becomes law Aug. 28th.
    Don't ask the next question.... read the Missouri Constitution. If you haven't yet, its about time you did!


    Missouri House of Representatives

    97th General Assembly , 1st Regular Session

    Activity History for HB 436

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    Date Jrn Pg Activity Description
    2/05/2013 H 276 Introduced and Read First Time (H)
    2/06/2013 H 284 Read Second Time (H)
    2/18/2013 H 386 Referred: General Laws(H)
    3/06/2013 Public Hearing Completed (H)
    4/09/2013 Executive Session Completed (H)
    4/09/2013 HCS Voted Do Pass (H)
    4/09/2013 H 1011 HCS Reported Do Pass (H)
    4/09/2013 H 1011 Referred: Rules(H)
    4/11/2013 Rules - Executive Session Completed (H)
    4/11/2013 Rules - Voted Do Pass (H)
    4/11/2013 H 1119 Rules - Reported Do Pass (H)
    4/17/2013 H 1309 HCS Adopted (H)
    4/17/2013 H 1309 - 1310 Perfected with Amendments (H) - HA 1, HA 2, HA 3, HA 1 TO HA 4, HA 4 AS AMENDED ADOPTED AYES: 117 NOES: 39
    4/18/2013 H 1361 - 1363 Third Read and Passed (H) - AYES: 115 NOES: 41
    4/22/2013 S 827 Reported to the Senate and First Read (S)
    4/23/2013 S 851 Second read and referred: Senate General Laws(S)
    4/23/2013 Public Hearing Scheduled (S) - WEDNESDAY, APRIL 24, 2013, 2:00PM, SCR 2
    4/24/2013 Public Hearing Held (S)
    4/24/2013 Executive Session Held (S) - SCS VOTED DO PASS
    4/25/2013 S 914 SCS Reported Do Pass (S)
    4/29/2013 S 934 Placed on Informal Calendar
    5/02/2013 S 1260 - 1261 Taken Up for Third Reading (S)
    5/02/2013 S 1261 SCS Adopted (S)
    5/02/2013 S 1261 Third Read and Passed with Amendments (S) - SA 1, SA 2 ADOPTED AYES: 26 NOES: 6
    5/02/2013 H 1923 Reported to the House with... (H) - SCS AS AMENDED
    5/08/2013 H 2271 - 2272 House Concurs (H) - SCS AS AMEMDED ADOPTED AYES: 116 NOES: 38
    5/08/2013 H 2273 Truly Agreed To and Finally Passed - AYES: 116 NOES: 38
    5/22/2013 Signed by House Speaker(H)
    5/22/2013 Signed by President Pro Tem (S)
    5/22/2013 Delivered to Governor
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    We owe you a nice cool beverage of your choice.
    Enjoy your summer,

    Cheers
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    Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighValueWarrior View Post
    We owe you a nice cool beverage of your choice.
    Enjoy your summer,

    Cheers
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    we owe you several!!!! thank you

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    unfortunatley. if any of you visit Washington....

    Washington will no longer recognize your CCW endorsement when this law takes effect because the age will be lowered to 19.
    they love our milk and honey, but they preach about some other way of living, when they're running down my country man they're walkin' on the fightin side of me

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    i guess i'll just scratch Washington off my list of places to visit. Missouri has plenty for me to see anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    unfortunatley. if any of you visit Washington....

    Washington will no longer recognize your CCW endorsement when this law takes effect because the age will be lowered to 19.
    No big loss for me as I never planned to visit there anyway.

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    Washington is a beautiful state to be sure ...... but the Kalifornia Kommies have infested the place.
    No longer safe for Free Men.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
    Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    unfortunatley. if any of you visit Washington....

    Washington will no longer recognize your CCW endorsement when this law takes effect because the age will be lowered to 19.
    This is indeed a possibility, other states may also make that choice. While I find it some what disappointing since MO is one of the most accepted endorsements, I will remain focused on the laws of MO as they typically have more impact on the people of MO.

    I personally think the age limit, if any, should be 18. If the government can force a gun into your hands at 18, they have no authority to tell you that you can't pick one up of your own free will IMHO.

    Perhaps the citizens of Washington should be concerned with altering their laws to conform with the 18 year old limit.
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    Waiting for the Governor to "ACT".
    You'll see it here : http://governor.mo.gov/actions/

    We do have to keep up withour "friends" from Jefferson City. I went to an event last evening for Missouri House speaker Tim Jones.
    If there is a veto over ride needed for HB436, we need his support badly!
    I didn't get my coat pulled back quite far enough, but trust me, it's there....

    Last edited by mspgunner; 05-24-2013 at 09:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighValueWarrior View Post
    Washington is a beautiful state to be sure ...... but the Kalifornia Kommies have infested the place.
    No longer safe for Free Men.
    Oregon is even better! And they have an OC age of 18. The only thing is, that a few cities(like Portland) say you can open carry, just not with one in the chamber. But you don't have to let them inspect your firearm. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Castillo View Post
    Oregon is even better! And they have an OC age of 18. The only thing is, that a few cities(like Portland) say you can open carry, just not with one in the chamber. But you don't have to let them inspect your firearm. :-)
    Makes no sense what so ever....
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    We have gone to the governor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Castillo View Post
    Oregon is even better! And they have an OC age of 18. The only thing is, that a few cities(like Portland) say you can open carry, just not with one in the chamber. But you don't have to let them inspect your firearm. :-)
    I regularly don't like do openly contest comments! But in this case I will make an exception! Having grown up in Oregon I can tell you Oregon in no way shape or form is better than the great state of Missouri!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mechanicworkman View Post
    I regularly don't like do openly contest comments! But in this case I will make an exception! Having grown up in Oregon I can tell you Oregon in no way shape or form is better than the great state of Missouri!!


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    And if we get HB436 to become law we'll rock even more!!!!!
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    I hope you guys get it!

    Talked to my new neighbor yesterday for the first time. Assistant police chief of my town, Maricopa, AZ. He is fresh from New Jersey and said he needed a brain transplant to handle all of the open carry he has been seeing But he was hired after 75% of the force was fired last year for reasons he did not mention. The chief kicks ass.

    I hope Missouri just keeps getting better. After all, I want my renters to be able to protect my property And you never know if I might go back.... lol. Not likely after enjoying all of this awesome weather. Arizona would have to sink into the sewer first

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterarthur View Post
    I hope you guys get it!


    Arizona would have to sink into the sewer first

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    Like CO did?

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    Good photo! And good idea.

    NAGR sent out an email encouraging members to call Nixon about SB75 and HB436.

    NRA followed with an email too about SB75, but did not mention 436. Too bold for them?

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    We have gone to the governor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HP995 View Post
    Good photo! And good idea.

    NAGR sent out an email encouraging members to call Nixon about SB75 and HB436.

    NRA followed with an email too about SB75, but did not mention 436. Too bold for them?
    It turned out as a positive that the NRA was not associated with the bill. Senator Nadal-whatshername launched an attack targeting the NRA during the debate on HB436, and Nieves shot it down by stating that the NRA was not involved in the bill.

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    It turned out as a positive that the NRA was not associated with the bill. Senator Nadal-whatshername launched an attack targeting the NRA during the debate on HB436, and Nieves shot it down by stating that the NRA was not involved in the bill.
    Nice!

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    HB420, which is the open carry bill was introduced by MO. State Representative Paul Curtman. A number of us who participate on this forum where the people who collectively drafted this bill which is on the Governor's desk as a part of HB436.
    If you would like to thank Representative Curtman one way to do this is to contribute to his re-election campaign.
    If we want to keep him in the Misouri Legislature, some one has to buck up.
    here is a simple way to do this:
    http://www.paulcurtman.com/#!contribute/c1vq4
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    Gun Related Bills That Need To Become Law:

    HB 436 - School Protection Officers - allows teachers with advanced firearms training to carry in schools - closes records of firearms ownership - lower the age for ccw to 19.

    HB 533 - Allows guns in vehicles for state employees on state parking lots.

    SB 75 - Takes issuance of ccw permits away from DOR and gives it to the sheriff departments, and more.

    SB 252 - Prohibits DOR from scaning or providing biometric data and sharing firearms data with the federal government.

    Please Contact:

    Office of the Governor Jay Nixon
    PO Box 720
    Jefferson City, MO 65102

    573-751-3222

    http://governor.mo.gov/contact/

    Ask him to sign these bills or allow them to become law. Please do it today!
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    Ask him to sign these bills or allow them to become law. Please do it today!

    Done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    Gun Related Bills That Need To Become Law:

    HB 436 - School Protection Officers - allows teachers with advanced firearms training to carry in schools - closes records of firearms ownership - lower the age for ccw to 19.

    HB 533 - Allows guns in vehicles for state employees on state parking lots.

    SB 75 - Takes issuance of ccw permits away from DOR and gives it to the sheriff departments, and more.

    SB 252 - Prohibits DOR from scaning or providing biometric data and sharing firearms data with the federal government.

    Please Contact:

    Office of the Governor Jay Nixon
    PO Box 720
    Jefferson City, MO 65102

    573-751-3222

    http://governor.mo.gov/contact/

    Ask him to sign these bills or allow them to become law. Please do it today!
    Are these all a law together or seperate laws. I have no problem calling but I do not agree with HB 436.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr1805 View Post
    Are these all a law together or seperate laws. I have no problem calling but I do not agree with HB 436.
    What is your issue with HB436?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    What is your issue with HB436?
    In my opinion 19 years old is to young to carry a weapon. The maturity level is not there for a kid at that age. I also don't think teachers need weapons in schools. There are other measures we can take to keep our kids safe without putting a gun in the hands of a person who has a job with one of the highest rates of stress. I'm not saying I am right. Its just my belief.

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