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I was stopped for OC in Walmart @ Hartford (Video) Disarmed without consent
- Thread starter Mando
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Jared
Regular Member
These two cops are clueless. You can move into CT without registering firearms you already own. Besides, how would they have delt with a non-resident?
CT cops should be familiar with the Pistol Permit, before LEOSA, they needed a permit to carry off duty.... And they still need one to be exempt from the Federal Gun Free Schools Act, but I'm sure they are not aware about that either.
CT cops should be familiar with the Pistol Permit, before LEOSA, they needed a permit to carry off duty.... And they still need one to be exempt from the Federal Gun Free Schools Act, but I'm sure they are not aware about that either.
davidmcbeth
Banned
They have about 287 cops in Hartford .. you ran into a couple that have no idea and basically kidnapped you.
They have no RAS, they have no PC, the detainment is illegal ... its kidnapping.
You could have arrested them !
They have no RAS, they have no PC, the detainment is illegal ... its kidnapping.
You could have arrested them !
Jared
Regular Member
Good way to get shot by a cop. Good luck with any type of citizens arrest or any other poppycock people come up with on the Internet.
Anyone would be convinced if they spent 10 minutes on http://photographyisnotacrime.com/
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cteaglesfan
Regular Member
I went into a store in New Haven while OCing and had an educational convo with a guy who works there about the legality of it. A few weeks later I went there again and he said he asked a New Haven police officer about it and his words were "It's a good thing I didn't see him because I would have arrested him". Arrested me for what.......... I have no idea.
We all know what state police policy is, It looks like it's local police policy to arrest/detain and ask questions later.
We all know what state police policy is, It looks like it's local police policy to arrest/detain and ask questions later.
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countryclubjoe
Regular Member
Mando
What was the outcome?
CCJ
What was the outcome?
CCJ
davidmcbeth
Banned
Jared, in my state, you do not have to sit back and accept illegal activity by gov't officials ... if cops want to break into your house, illegally hold you etc then you have the right to resist.
Your neighboring state, IN, just went through this ....
Jared
Regular Member
Again, it's poppycock.
Good luck resisting, you will be shot or severely injured. Resisting an arrest in CT will go about as well as carrying without a permit "under the 2nd Amendment".
Spend 10 minutes on www.photographyisnotacrime.com
You speak in romantic terms of how the constitution actually is; however, the reality is that the government, courts, police, and prison don't care.
Attempting to arrest a CT cop or being caught in CT carrying without a license = felony rapsheet and prison.
Mando
New member
@Grapshot I was using my phone, I have info on video description :
Was at about 5pm and I apologize for video angles but I knew if they saw me recording, they would have me stop. At one point I zoomed in on officers and Walmart manager tells me I can't take pictures, but I was actually recording. I was stopped for OC'ing in Walmart @ Flatbush Ave in Hartford. I was heading towards register when the main officer in video approaches me from behind. He had just noticed me since he was walking towards my direction talking with someone. Name tag was Daugherty. He taps my shoulder and motions to my gun as to say "what the hell is this." My response was, I have my permit if you want to see it. He pulls me aside and runs my permit number. Comes back valid, he then disarms me without my consent which is when I reached into my pocket and started to record. I was and still am pissed at the fact the video cuts off shortly when the supervisor shows up. My phones memory was full at that point. Once the supervisor showed up, he asked what was going on, he was told that my permit was valid but I had no guns registered to me. After about 1min of him being there, Supervisor says if my permit valid, "let him go." Of course I was escorted to my car by the main LEO Daugherty. Supervisor (if I remember correctly) was J WILSON or J NELSON. I may be mixing up NELSON with the other officer, but I was nervous as I have never been stopped before.,
Was at about 5pm and I apologize for video angles but I knew if they saw me recording, they would have me stop. At one point I zoomed in on officers and Walmart manager tells me I can't take pictures, but I was actually recording. I was stopped for OC'ing in Walmart @ Flatbush Ave in Hartford. I was heading towards register when the main officer in video approaches me from behind. He had just noticed me since he was walking towards my direction talking with someone. Name tag was Daugherty. He taps my shoulder and motions to my gun as to say "what the hell is this." My response was, I have my permit if you want to see it. He pulls me aside and runs my permit number. Comes back valid, he then disarms me without my consent which is when I reached into my pocket and started to record. I was and still am pissed at the fact the video cuts off shortly when the supervisor shows up. My phones memory was full at that point. Once the supervisor showed up, he asked what was going on, he was told that my permit was valid but I had no guns registered to me. After about 1min of him being there, Supervisor says if my permit valid, "let him go." Of course I was escorted to my car by the main LEO Daugherty. Supervisor (if I remember correctly) was J WILSON or J NELSON. I may be mixing up NELSON with the other officer, but I was nervous as I have never been stopped before.,
Still best advice is to seek the counsel of an attorney - IMO you have a good case.
Mando sorry to hear this happen at the walmart store at flatbush ave. I usually OP there had no problems,( I live near the area ) the guy in the blue shirt his part of Lost Prevention WM!! the other guy in the sweatshirt his also LP, and the woman that was there for a few mint. is also LP, just get some legal advice then take it from there and by the way yes you can record in the store there is no policy that states that you cant record in the store they just want to be shure theres NO evidence... the WM way!!
countryclubjoe
Regular Member
hence the catch 22- When you sign up for a registration you agree to be stopped and questioned by LE.
Just my .02
CCJ
Jared
Regular Member
What "ignorance" are you referring to? Go strap on a handgun and walk around CA with the gun loaded and let me know how the jail experience goes. Be sure to tell us how far the Constitution gets you
countryclubjoe
Regular Member
What "ignorance" are you referring to? Go strap on a handgun and walk around CA with the gun loaded and let me know how the jail experience goes. Be sure to tell us how far the Constitution gets you
I must agree. If I tried exercising my 2A in NJ or NY, I would be either gunned down or send away for a very long time. Not to many pro 2A attorney's practicing in NJ or NY or CA theses days.
CCJ
Jared
Regular Member
Speak for yourself, I helped start two sucessful lawsuits and won the ability for non-citizens to possess/carry arms in WA and MA and I've done a lot of work in Rhode Island. I'm sure I've done way more than you, but thanks for asking
I almost forgot to mention the work of a long process for a lawsuit in one of the territories.Mando
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Fallschirjmäger
Active member
Did I hear the officer say "... breach of the peace situation"? <1:00
Sec. 53a-181. Breach of the peace in the second degree: Class B misdemeanor. (a) A person is guilty of breach of the peace in the second degree when, with intent to cause inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, such person:
(1) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening behavior in a public place; or
(2) assaults or strikes another; or
(3) threatens to commit any crime against another person or such other person's property; or
(4) publicly exhibits, distributes, posts up or advertises any offensive, indecent or abusive matter concerning any person; or
(5) in a public place, uses abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture; or
(6) creates a public and hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which such person is not licensed or privileged to do. For purposes of this section, "public place" means any area that is used or held out for use by the public whether owned or operated by public or private interests.
Looks like you got it back, I hope you left him with a smile.
Sec. 53a-181. Breach of the peace in the second degree: Class B misdemeanor. (a) A person is guilty of breach of the peace in the second degree when, with intent to cause inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, such person:
(1) Engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening behavior in a public place; or
(2) assaults or strikes another; or
(3) threatens to commit any crime against another person or such other person's property; or
(4) publicly exhibits, distributes, posts up or advertises any offensive, indecent or abusive matter concerning any person; or
(5) in a public place, uses abusive or obscene language or makes an obscene gesture; or
(6) creates a public and hazardous or physically offensive condition by any act which such person is not licensed or privileged to do. For purposes of this section, "public place" means any area that is used or held out for use by the public whether owned or operated by public or private interests.
Looks like you got it back, I hope you left him with a smile.
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