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    I KNOW you did not just jiggle my door knob - no you did not!

    The woman, later identified as Shirley Roberts, 52, immediately retrieved her gun after she heard someone jiggle the knob of the front door. She also witnessed two additional men heading to the back door.

    Group of Thugs Target Seemingly Defenseless Woman — They Had No Idea She Had Been Frequenting the Gun Range


    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...the-gun-range/


    Good for her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    The woman, later identified as Shirley Roberts, 52, immediately retrieved her gun after she heard someone jiggle the knob of the front door. She also witnessed two additional men heading to the back door.

    Group of Thugs Target Seemingly Defenseless Woman — They Had No Idea She Had Been Frequenting the Gun Range
    “If you’re in fear for your life, most definitely we want you to protect yourself. We don’t want any harm to come to anyone,” Sgt. Marisa Barnes of the Kansas City Police Department told KMBC-TV.

    Aww, that's so sweet of her to give permission to save your life.

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    Thread title is racist? Or, just stereotyping?

    No where in the text or news video was the woman quoted saying anything along the lines of the thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    No where in the text or news video was the woman quoted saying anything along the lines of the thread title.
    Interestingly enough, there are no quotes around the text that comprises the thread title, nor is the phrase credited to the woman that is the subject of the post. Senseless derailing of a perfectly good thread, is about all your posts is positioned to do. Take a chill pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Interestingly enough, there are no quotes around the text that comprises the thread title, nor is the phrase credited to the woman that is the subject of the post. Senseless derailing of a perfectly good thread, is about all your posts is positioned to do. Take a chill pill.
    Interestingly enough, my point is that the OPer invented the stereotyping thread title out of his own head, not from something said in the story text or news video. Or, racist thread title. But, you knew that. That's why you pretended to go off on a tangent about whether the thread title had quotes.

    The proof is easily found in alternate thread titles that would have been even more informative but devoid of racial indication. "Woman shoots intruder while husband is away" or even, "Resident blasts bad guys trying to break in."
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Interestingly enough, my point is that the OPer invented the stereotyping thread title out of his own head, not from something said in the story text or news video. Or, racist thread title. But, you knew that. That's why you pretended to go off on a tangent about whether the thread title had quotes.

    The proof is easily found in alternate thread titles that would have been even more informative but devoid of racial indication. "Woman shoots intruder while husband is away" or even, "Resident blasts bad guys trying to break in."
    "Racial indication"? And which race would you attribute the title to?

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    As a victim, I'd prefer not to have my name and photo plastered all over the Internet. Wonder if the victim had a choice in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resto Guy View Post
    "Racial indication"? And which race would you attribute the title to?
    No one needs attribute anything to anyone. We see who the victim was. We see the fake quote that the OP clearly implies is something that the victim would have said. I would say that any stereotyping is on the part of the OP.

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    The OP did not imply anything about the topic name was a quote. Although the title does include things said in the story she heard someone "jiggle the doorknob". To accuse the OP of anything due to the title is just being ignorant.
    Last edited by ADobbs1989; 05-27-2013 at 02:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markand View Post
    As a victim, I'd prefer not to have my name and photo plastered all over the Internet. Wonder if the victim had a choice in that.
    Probably not, but the first amendment applies, just as the second does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADobbs1989 View Post
    The OP did not imply anything about the topic name was a quote. Although the title does include things said in the story she heard someone "jiggle the doorknob". To accuse the OP of anything due to the title is just being an ignorant ass.
    Ah, yes, name-calling. The hallmark of a bankrupt argument.

    Folks, think about this for yourself. What is the only reasonable meaning of the thread title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Ah, yes, name-calling. The hallmark of a bankrupt argument.

    Folks, think about this for yourself. What is the only reasonable meaning of the thread title?
    Lmao, you don't even have an argument. The title is nothing more than a "funny" made up title to draw attention to the story. Basically every media outlet does this. It even makes more sense because the woman was specifically quoted saying she heard someone jiggling the doorknob.

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    Meh. I couldn't care less what you think. My appeal in that post was for others to rationally assess the implication of the OP.

    Moving on.

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    I KNOW you did not just jiggle my door knob - no you did not!

    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Meh. I couldn't care less what you think. My appeal in that post was for others to rationally assess the implication of the OP.

    Moving on.
    And as usual your assessment is borderline retarded. Not that it would matter anyway, the point of the post was the content contained within, not the title. Get off your soapbox no one cares. I do hope you are moving on though, from previous experiences we all know that you are not. (You might since I said this, otherwise you will obviously look like a liar.)

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    I've seen a lot of posts de-railed before, but this has to be the quickest.
    Why not just say "hey I'm glad she was able to defend herself, and wasn't hurt".
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    I've seen a lot of posts de-railed before, but this has to be the quickest.
    Why not just say "hey I'm glad she was able to defend herself, and wasn't hurt".
    Because we should be advocating the right for minorities to defend themselves, rather than making stereotypical comments.

    If the OPer comes to the thread and clarifies that he meant it light-heartedly and without bias, I'll shift my stance. In the meantime, to show the absurdity of thread title, I would ask, why stop only the one comment? If one is going to stereotype, why not just offend as many people as possible with more stereotypical comments in the post itself? Why not toss in some tasteless references to fried chicken and watermelon?

    Should we really wait around until the OPer really crosses a line?
    Last edited by Citizen; 05-27-2013 at 09:01 AM.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    I KNOW you did not just jiggle my door knob - no you did not!

    I found it humorous without even reading the article. I still haven't read it because the thread hit critical mass very early and that enticed me.

    I can see the concern in making it sound like a gun owner drilled someone just for jiggling a doorknob. We don't want to be portrayed as people responding to the littlest noise or provocation with a Biden blast through the door with a shotgun.

    Happy Memorial Day.

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    C'mon! There aren't any racial connotations with the thread title. To imply that there is *could* be considered a 'racist' reaction. I've heard people of different ethnic backgrounds and even genders use the "I know you did not _____ -- Oh, no you didn't!" phrase.

    So what race exactly are some of you thinking that the title implies? (I'm heinz57 so I have NO dog in this fight, BTW.) lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Because we should be advocating the right for minorities to defend themselves, rather than making stereotypical comments.

    If the OPer comes to the thread and clarifies that he meant it light-heartedly and without bias, I'll shift my stance. In the meantime, to show the absurdity of thread title, I would ask, why stop only the one comment? If one is going to stereotype, why not just offend as many people as possible with more stereotypical comments in the post itself? Why not toss in some tasteless references to fried chicken and watermelon?

    Should we really wait around until the OPer really crosses a line?

    Project much?

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    If you try hard enough, you can see whatever you want in the title. I personally think it's a secret code meant to guide the alien overlords to the invasion rendezvous point. It's not much more of a stretch, and it's way more fun.

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    From The Blaze article:
    immediately retrieved her gun after she heard someone jiggle the knob of the front door. She also witnessed two additional men heading to the back door.

    Looking through the blinds, Roberts saw the men putting on gloves and preparing to force their way into her home.
    She had situational awareness. She formed a plan and executed that plan. Good for her!

    From the FOX4 link:
    Oscar is convinced learning how to fire a gun at their favorite shooting range saved his wife’s life.
    Wise man. They both are doing the right thing in working to ensure their own safety. Outstanding.
    Moreover, were he to return there, wouldn't he be rather bad at their game, no longer being accustomed to the darkness? - Plato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock32 View Post
    Project much?
    Oh, sure. I'm such a racist that I'm willing to undermine the whole Second Amendment by criticizing the senate speech made during the debate about the 14th Amendment. You know the one. The one where the senator expressly stated that the 14th was intended also to secure to blacks the right to keep and bear arms. Yep, I'm so alert to hints of racism only because I myself am the chief racist of OCDO. Just ignore my signature line--no truth or sincerity in it at all. Same for my written views on government and consent. Its all just cover to hide my racism. /sarcasm
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    OK, alrighty then! While I did not find the title "racist" I would be a fool not to realize that it was a comic relief based on how some blacks are percieved to talk. If David denies that he is not being honest. Do I think it rose to the level of racism, helll no, but since it did offend some it was Lenny Brucish, and David does tend to run in that direction, pushing the limits to provoke attention.

    Do I think for one minute that Citizen is a racist? Again a double HELLL NO! He just pointed out the obvious, the rest is just conflict of personalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JmE View Post
    C'mon! There aren't any racial connotations with the thread title. To imply that there is *could* be considered a 'racist' reaction. I've heard people of different ethnic backgrounds and even genders use the "I know you did not _____ -- Oh, no you didn't!" phrase.

    So what race exactly are some of you thinking that the title implies? (I'm heinz57 so I have NO dog in this fight, BTW.) lol
    Ohhhh come on! That game does not even fly. Your telling me you honestly don't know? Never watched a comedy that uses the hand waving, head swaying, overly exaggerated acting to portray one particular race? Dishonesty does not become anyone!

    If I put "How white man" in a title you would not know which race it was mocking? BE HONEST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by markand
    As a victim, I'd prefer not to have my name and photo plastered all over the Internet. Wonder if the victim had a choice in that.
    Well, first, I don't think she's a victim. They intended to make her a victim, but I'd say she came out the victor. Understandably upset & shook up, as her husband says, but not a victim.
    Pretty sure if you asked the thugs, they're feeling pretty victimized right now. Ask me if I care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen
    my point is that the OPer invented the stereotyping thread title out of his own head...
    alternate thread titles that would have been even more informative but devoid of racial indication.
    Quote Originally Posted by JmE
    There aren't any racial connotations with the thread title.
    To imply that there is *could* be considered a 'racist' reaction.
    I'm usually pretty aware of stereotypes & racism, and I am clueless as to how some of you got from the thread title to "the OP is racist against blacks".
    I could see that phrase (or something similar) running through my head when witnessing the beginning of a crime (oh, they are not trying to break in here...), or even the aftermath (you did not just hit my car!).
    And while I'm not albino, I'm pretty melanin-impaired. I turn funny colors if I'm in the sun too long. Most of my neighbors are greatly melanin-gifted.

    ETA: Here's an actual TV station news story; I can't get the video to run.
    http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city...l/-/index.html
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