JoeSparky
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Yeah!
Glad I could help you see with an example!
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talk with off duty LEO
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Glad I could help you see with an example!
KYGlockster
Activist Member
To get an FOP plate in KY you must be a member of the FOP. To become a member of the FOP you must be a sworn peace officer with an agency that is recognized by the FOP (certain officers with federal agencies can also become members as can certain individuals with the KY COJ). Family members cannot be members in the FOP or anyone else. Most FOP members are local police officers, sheriffs and deputy sheriffs, and jailers and deputy jailers, all of which are sworn peace officers with county wide jurisdiction to enforce the law.
If he had FOP plates then it's likely he had arrest powers, unless he was driving someone's car that is.
If he had FOP plates then it's likely he had arrest powers, unless he was driving someone's car that is.
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They can be "auxiliary members," which is why I asked if auxiliary members qualify.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
There are people here in NC running around with FOP plates who are not police, the requirement for a FOP card at tag office is required, according to FOP. Apparently they are accepting auxiliary cards. It was not uncommon to pull over cars with FOP or Sheriff's association plates and the person who the car was registered to was not a police officer. The only way to tell if a police officer is actually a police officer is to ask for ID, and contact the agency. They will confirm if they are or not.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOP-FRATERN...404?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2df1563c
Here one can buy a FOP pin with sticky backing for applying to license plate. Anybody who wants to become a instant cop and play in the mall can buy it.
countryclubjoe
Regular Member
I have seen the round metal " Member Fraternal Order of Police" decal on ebay.
Also the metal PBA shield on ebay.
CCJ
Also the metal PBA shield on ebay.
CCJ
KYGlockster
Activist Member
In Kentucky auxiliary members cannot get the FOP plates. They can get the little metal tag that can be attached to a STANDARD plate and the stickers to go on their windows, but not the actual FOP license plate.
Kentucky law and North Carolina law are quite different I would assume WalkingWolf.
KYGlockster
Activist Member
Why are you so concerned about not wanting people to know you are an LEO when you are off-duty?
Here in KY even if I am off-duty I am still a Peace Officer with arrest powers, and I am bound to intervene in any illegal activity I may witness. I carry my badge and identification 24/7 whether on- or off-duty. I do carry my badge concealed on my person, but I do carry it nonetheless. Many companies will hire off-duty Peace Officers to work security jobs because we do have arrest powers whether on- or off-duty.
The FOP plates are convenient and I have them on my vehicles. The little decals and "pins" you speak of look nothing like the actual design on the FOP plates, and it is very easy to identify the difference. The plates have a specific badge design and state "member" right on the badge; the pins and stickers say "VIP DONATER" and so forth. It is incredibly easy to spot an FOP plate when compared to the plate tags or stickers.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
Do you know many plumbers who fix mall toilets for free on their off hours? A few police get specialty plates, but not many, and most do not want to be playing cop at the mall. Unless of course they are mall cops. Do YOU accost open carriers on duty or off?
Thank you. Next question: Is it legal to drive someone else's car if they have FOP license plates?
Firearms Iinstuctor
Regular Member
I had 24/7 arrest powers for 33 years. I really didn't want to get involved in things when I was off duty. I was prepared to do so if I had to. Only really had to once.
I prefer not to advertise that I was an off duty LEO I live in a small rural county enough people knew who I was didn't need to spread it around to others that didn't.
But each to his own No back up, no vest,no radio before cell phones really didn't want to get involved in off duty law enforcement work.
KYGlockster
Activist Member
No. As long as you have the owner's permission to drive their vehicle it is legal.
KYGlockster
Activist Member
I don't accost anyone unless they are breaking the law, and then only if they are breaking a law that is worth enforcing. I like to exercise discretion while on-duty. Obviously you haven't paid any attention to my posts where I defend the rights of open carriers, much like I have done in this thread. I openly carried for years before I obtained my CDWL, which was long before I became a Peace Officer.
Nearly every Peace Officer that I know has obtained the FOP plates once they became a member of the FOP.
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dtabb
Regular Member
Maybe Spite?
The word you want is spite, not despite, which means "notwithstanding".
If grammar, usage, and spelling here are not up to snuff, we will be additionally branded, and you all know it.
The word you want is spite, not despite, which means "notwithstanding".
If grammar, usage, and spelling here are not up to snuff, we will be additionally branded, and you all know it.
MrOverlay
Regular Member
I abandoned the FOP in the 70's when the National FOP supported gun control.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
I belonged to the FOP as a deputy, I saw the FOP even locally as anti gun. The sheriff's office paid our dues, so we all belonged. The figures of members, and the number of legit plates do not support the claim that most FOP members have plates. And police are no different than anybody else they value their time off work.
We had a bailiff in Pittsboro about ten years ago that went around IDing herself as a police officer and harassing people for just about anything, including OC. She lasted about 6 months before being fired. It is the same behavior that happens from jailers who either have not paid their dues to be on the road, or cannot be trusted to be on the road. So they act out by playing Sonny Crocket in parking lots on their time off. I don't really pay attention to a jailer with a few months under his belt, to me, they are wannabe cops.
Citizen
Founder's Club Member
Here now! Stop that! I is proud of my redneck roots! Jes' cuz I ain't so good at grammer and spelling don't mene nuthing.
And, quit demeaning my Skoal by making it a standard of sophistication.
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carolina guy
Regular Member
+1 I am guessing that his wife is the LEO...not him.
carolina guy
Regular Member
I would have likely responded "..that a larger gun gets caught up in the center console in the car when I sit down...", smiled and kept walking.
carolina guy
Regular Member
I never wanted anything extra on my personal car, and my brother-in-law and cousin do not want them either. Makes it to easy to ID where they live, or vandalize the cars at the mall by thugs and thug wannabes.