Hunters safety... Does it still count as applicable training to get your CCL?

(this text is now required on certificates for training)

---This course includes, at a minimum, instruction on and practices the student’s comprehension of: 1) Firearm safety rules; 2) Safe firearm and ammunition use, handling, transport, and storage; 3) Legally permissible possession, transportation, and use of firearms, including use of deadly force; and 4) Techniques for avoiding and controlling violent confrontations.---

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(4) TRAINING REQUIREMENTS. (a) The proof of training requirement under sub. (7) (e) may be met by any of
the following:
1. A copy of a document, or an affidavit from an
instructor or organization that conducted the course or
program, that indicates the individual completed any of
the following:
a. The hunter education program established under s.
29.591 or a substantially similar program that is established by another state, country, or province and that is
recognized by the department of natural resources

ETC ETC

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17.05(2)(a)
Adds language requirements to the training certificate or affidavit to indicate the training required in 17.03(7) was provided.

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vinchenzo said:

Soooo.... Maybe this is a simple question and I'm just too slow to understand it. But does Hunters Safety still count as meeting the training requirement for your CCL?

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175.60  License to carry a concealed weapon.
(4) Training requirements.
(a) The proof of training requirement under sub. (7) (e) may be met by any of the following:
1. A copy of a document, or an affidavit from an instructor or organization that conducted the course or program, that indicates the individual completed any of the following:
a. The hunter education program established under s. 29.591 or a substantially similar program that is established by another state, country, or province and that is recognized by the department of natural resources.
b. A firearms safety or training course that is conducted by a national or state organization that certifies firearms instructors.
c. A firearms safety or training course that is available to the public and is offered by a law enforcement agency or, if the course is taught by an instructor who is certified by a national or state organization that certifies firearms instructors or by the department, by a technical college, a college or a university, a private or public institution or organization, or a firearms training school.
d. A firearms safety or training course that is offered to law enforcement officers or to owners and employees of licensed private detective and security agencies.
e. A firearms safety or training course that is conducted by a firearms instructor who is certified by a national or state organization that certifies firearms instructors or who is certified by the department.

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Jus 17.03  Definitions. In this chapter:
(7) "Firearms safety or training course" means a course of instructor-led training that provides a certificate or affidavit of successful completion that includes the items specified in s. Jus 17.05 (2) (a) and that, at a minimum, instructs on, and practices the student's comprehension of, firearm safety rules; safe firearm and ammunition use, handling, transport, and storage; legally permissible possession, transportation, and use of firearms, including use of deadly force; and techniques for avoiding and controlling violent confrontations

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Jus 17.05  Training and documentation requirements.
(2) Content requirements for training certificate or affidavit.
(a) A certificate or affidavit supplied by the instructor or organization that is submitted to the department under sub. (1) (b), (c), (d), (e), (f), or (g) for the purpose of documenting that the applicant has successfully completed a firearms safety or training course shall include all of the following information:
1. The applicant's name.
2. The name of the firearms safety or training course.
3. The date on which the applicant completed the firearms safety or training course.
4. The name of the instructor who taught the firearms safety or training course to the applicant and the name of the agency or organization that certified the instructor.
(b) In addition to a certificate or affidavit meeting the requirements of par. (a), the documentation of training submitted by an applicant shall include evidence sufficient to establish that the course completed by the applicant was a firearms safety and training course as defined in s. Jus 17.03 (7). Sufficient evidence shall include one of the following:
1. A signed statement by the instructor who taught the firearms safety or training course to the applicant affirming that the course completed by the applicant was a firearms safety and training course as defined in s. Jus 17.03 (7).
2. Information on the certificate or affidavit described in sub. (2) (a) sufficient to establish that the course completed by the applicant was a firearms safety and training course as defined in s. Jus 17.03 (7).
3. A signed statement by the applicant as part of the application affirming that the applicant successfully completed a firearms safety or training course and describing the scope and contents of that course in a manner sufficient to determine that the course was a firearms safety and training course as defined in s. Jus 17.03 (7).

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including use of deadly force; and techniques for avoiding and controlling violent confrontations

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Firearms Iinstuctor said:

Two different parts of the law.

One does not cancel the other.

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vinchenzo said:

Thanks for the reply.

What confused me was the amended definition, and what must be on the training course certificate.



I don't remember that being part of the hunters safety curriculum, but then again it has been quite some time since I've taken it. That's where my confusion came in.


Thanks for the clarification.

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