Sounds like qualifications to run a country if you ask a democrat. Remember running a business is different from running a government. In a business you want to produce a product or provide a service in order to make a profit, in government you want to spend what others earn while charging disproportionately of the citizens who earn more (read work) than those who earn less for a service that you may or may not provide.
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Which candidate for governor openly advocates for constitutional carry?
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Sounds like qualifications to run a country if you ask a democrat. Remember running a business is different from running a government. In a business you want to produce a product or provide a service in order to make a profit, in government you want to spend what others earn while charging disproportionately of the citizens who earn more (read work) than those who earn less for a service that you may or may not provide.
Forty-five
Regular Member
That fight will be tremendously harder, and possibly unwinnable, if the dems win.
mpguy
Regular Member
I'm very nervous over really the next 5-10 years. It just feels like that, pro gun is so divided lately. With all the crap going on lately, as much as I think constitutional carry is great, I think ATM defending what we've worked so hard on lately, needs more attention.
Sad part of it all...I don't think we've seen the worst of it gun or economic wise.
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Sad part of it all...I don't think we've seen the worst of it gun or economic wise.
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I think you're looking too far in the future MP. The next 5 years will be extremely difficult. While gun rights are extremely important, so are other Constitutional rights....all are under attack.
What happens if the Dem's are elected? I don't know, no one does. As a Commonwealth I think we are in for hell. What happens Nationwide, I know we're in for hell either way. Reality isn't pretty but you can't eat pipe dreams.
And yes....I just wrote a lot in between these lines.:lol:
Makes coloring or walking between the lines difficult, doesn't it?
Repeater
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I didn't comment on that Repeater but in those days, the Dems were the better party in Va. They didn't become low life sons of b$%*&^$ until shortly after Philpott went west. Virgil Good for instance, started life as a Dem then changed party as the parties switched roles.
He was an intimidating person to be around. It didn't matter what the bill was, if Philpott wanted it, it was a done deal. If he didn't want it, it was history.
Repeater
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For those who knew him, he was a Southern gentleman who got things done.
POPS VA
Regular Member
It's unfortunate but you are right. Virginia is about to go blue across the board, and Terry is going to hoist that banner. I have lived in this state for over a half a century and what has happened as a result of legisltors "north of the Ni" as well as the Richmond and the Norfolk/ Va beach areas have now created a state that bends itself towards the piece by piece destruction of both the State and Federal Constitutions. I understand your wanting to abstain from voting peter, but what else can one do when we are activly silenced by the powers that be. You do have a dog in this fight, it's your children and grandchildren, I read your posts daily and you are a well spoken, educated, inteligent individual who's opinion I greatly value. I mean no disrespect, JMHO
Indeed - Peter is a southern gentleman of some repute, who makes things happen or gets the job done himself.
POPS VA
Regular Member
Yes sir, his posts display that in spades, I value his opinions
Thundar
Regular Member
Tess,
The Libertarians find people who will stand up for our rights. This is, IMHO, the a priori for a qualified candidate. Neither the Donkeys nor the Elephants seem able to find many candidates that will fight for liberty.
Look at the ridiculous perversions of our 4th A rights going on right now. Almost all of the elected are statist swine that love to scare us so that they can gain more power by taking away our liberty.
Lincoln was a damn traitor to our constitutional republic, Woodrow Wilson was toxic to our liberties, FDR worked hard until the war to make government the (socialist) solution, W played with totalitarian fire in the Patriot Act and now BHO exploits the fire started by W and openly advocates against our constitutional freedoms (and wins twice!).
A qualified candidate is one who will fight to preserve the sovereignty, dignity and liberty of the Commonwealth.
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
Citizen
Founder's Club Member
It occurs to me that a Libertarian governor has to do almost nothing in office--just exercise his veto pen alot. That doesn't take much administrative experience.
If he wants to wind back the oppressive stuff, that's where he has to be persuasive. A good salesman.
Ed Levine for Governor!
I disagree. If it were not the governor's position to lead, but simply to be a figurehead, I'd agree. (Or if all he had to do was veto!)
The governor should be our champion, our cheerleader, our defender - I agree - but also our Chief Executive, the guy who keeps things moving smoothly by providing guidance on priorities and ensuring interaction and cooperation between departments. Someone with little work experience, little-to-no executive/administrative experience, and only academic experience might be able to do the job, but hasn't demonstrated qualifications.
I am not, as you might imagine, holding up any from our recent past as examples.
Defrock
Regular Member
It occurs to me that a Libertarian governor has to do almost nothing in office--just exercise his veto pen alot. That doesn't take much administrative experience.
If he wants to wind back the oppressive stuff, that's where he has to be persuasive. A good salesman.
Ed Levine for Governor!
That's exactly what Gary Johnson did as Governor of New Mexico.
ron73440
Regular Member
Thundar
Regular Member
Tess,
I think you are conflating leader with administrator. The two are related, but the far more important of the two is leader.
What you ask for with your demonstrated experience requirement is in essence the continuation of the current situation. Only the Donkeys and Elephants have executive experience, so only the Donkeys and the Elephants are qualified.
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
I don't see that Tess was limiting executive experience only to government or politicians.
Grapeshot is correct. I had no intention of limiting "experience" to government or politics.
For instance, I consider Trump qualified for President, though I thank the gods we didn't have to put up with that candidacy, and certainly would not have voted for him. I think Gary Johnson qualified due to his experience as Governor, but don't consider him the leader I would like. The only ones with all the exact experiences are previous presidents (and I can't think of one I'd want to reelect), so one has to look at similar experience.
For instance, I consider Trump qualified for President, though I thank the gods we didn't have to put up with that candidacy, and certainly would not have voted for him. I think Gary Johnson qualified due to his experience as Governor, but don't consider him the leader I would like. The only ones with all the exact experiences are previous presidents (and I can't think of one I'd want to reelect), so one has to look at similar experience.
ed
Founder's Club Member - Moderator
true statement