data8504
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Hi all -
I just registered an account here to ask this question, so I'm sure I've yet to learn much about how this forum works and where best to pose my questions (in fact, this is a repost after a misplaced first try)... With that said, I'm a CHL-holding, reasonably politically-active pro-2A guy here in metro Portland, OR. I've been closely following the developments of concealed carry in Illinois, and I've engaged in my share of debates lately on predictions that the beginning of CC will be an inflection point for violence in Chicago.
Here's the rub. Until a few days ago, I thought that CC in Illinois was going to eventually make measurable progress in deterring violence in Chicago as it is phased in over the next 18 months, but I read an article while investigating the recent bond defaults of Detroit, MI - apparently on a per-capita basis, violent crime is more common in THIS city, and Michigan DOES have complete state pre-emption with statewide CHL.
So now I'm more on the fence. I want to believe that CC will help the situation, but Detroit as a case study seems to point to inefficacy. Can any brilliant minds here explain to me why these two cities are different? Perhaps give me some food for thought on why CC might help in Chicago where it hasn't in Detroit?
LL&P... -Matt
I just registered an account here to ask this question, so I'm sure I've yet to learn much about how this forum works and where best to pose my questions (in fact, this is a repost after a misplaced first try)... With that said, I'm a CHL-holding, reasonably politically-active pro-2A guy here in metro Portland, OR. I've been closely following the developments of concealed carry in Illinois, and I've engaged in my share of debates lately on predictions that the beginning of CC will be an inflection point for violence in Chicago.
Here's the rub. Until a few days ago, I thought that CC in Illinois was going to eventually make measurable progress in deterring violence in Chicago as it is phased in over the next 18 months, but I read an article while investigating the recent bond defaults of Detroit, MI - apparently on a per-capita basis, violent crime is more common in THIS city, and Michigan DOES have complete state pre-emption with statewide CHL.
So now I'm more on the fence. I want to believe that CC will help the situation, but Detroit as a case study seems to point to inefficacy. Can any brilliant minds here explain to me why these two cities are different? Perhaps give me some food for thought on why CC might help in Chicago where it hasn't in Detroit?
LL&P... -Matt