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What would you do?

tattedupboy

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So why would you not use the warranty, it is no questions asked. I find that strange when everybody knows how well HP bends over backwards for their customers. But then Hi Points are such POS, that they are one of the most difficult firearms to find used, and sometimes new. Online gun shops cannot keep them in stock, they are sold minutes after posting. Some sellers are selling them for $50 to 100 above suggested retail. While the LCP is generally selling for below suggested retail. Hmmmmmmmmmm?

I can't speak for other Hi Point owners. I can only speak for myself. Based on my own experience with a Hi Point pistol, I would avoid it like the plague in the future.

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FreeInAZ

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I can't speak for other Hi Point owners. I can only speak for myself. Based on my own experience with a Hi Point pistol, I would avoid it like the plague in the future.

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Well tater, I think the point wolf was making was you didn't give them (hi-point) a chance to fix your problem. They have been known to send a brand new pistol to customers if there are issues. I sent a 20 year old JS9 9mm in that had a cracked alloy frame (my fault, do to a drop) which caused a seating issue with the mags/misfeeds. So I called them up, told the tech what was going on & he said send it & the mags in for diags. This pistol went out of production many years ago. They replaced everything that they could with warehouse inventory - Frame, barrel, springs, complete firing assembly, ejector, all mags (5) + gave me another mag to cover my shipping. What I got back was a in new condition pistol. Mind you they didn't have to do anything, as it was my fault. It shoots like a top now. :D. IMHO they have the best customer service in the industry.
 

WalkingWolf

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[video=youtube;F5MSPI-hxoo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5MSPI-hxoo[/video]

I have a hard time believing anybody who makes claims and does not use the Hi Point warranty. The person that sold this man this particular gun has to be a mental midget to say the least, and obviously should not own a gun.
 

FreeInAZ

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Now that's a sweet deal. Basically a new pistol with two mags for $30! I keep looking for broken HP's, to date no luck. Must mean most people are using the warranty. ;)
 

WalkingWolf

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Now that's a sweet deal. Basically a new pistol with two mags for $30! I keep looking for broken HP's, to date no luck. Must mean most people are using the warranty. ;)

We have the same model, I am so impressed with it. I have been loading and shooting it for three days trying to find the sweet spot. And that is very difficult, because every load the group stays tiny, it rivals my custom 1851 reworked by R&D. A gun that I have a grand into, and worth more, and this inexpensive Hi Point is shooting groups just as good with a barrel that is not even broke in or seasoned yet. With this type of across the board accuracy a person could get into competition shooting for a couple hundred dollars.
 

FreeInAZ

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We have the same model, I am so impressed with it. I have been loading and shooting it for three days trying to find the sweet spot. And that is very difficult, because every load the group stays tiny, it rivals my custom 1851 reworked by R&D. A gun that I have a grand into, and worth more, and this inexpensive Hi Point is shooting groups just as good with a barrel that is not even broke in or seasoned yet. With this type of across the board accuracy a person could get into competition shooting for a couple hundred dollars.

Sadly, I'm pretty sure the gun snobs would never allow that. I would be happy to put my 14+1 JHP 45's up against a Kimber or two. :)
 

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I can't speak for other Hi Point owners. I can only speak for myself. Based on my own experience with a Hi Point pistol, I would avoid it like the plague in the future.

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if your's is such a PoS, send it to me, I'll take it off your hands and I'll return it to HP for them to repair for me
 

Gil223

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Let me see if I can clarify this point one more time... I wasn't badmouthing the HiPoint. I was questioning the judgment of somebody who may have to rely upon a pistol in his job, and then choosing one with reported functional inconsistencies. My nephew recently purchased a used HiPoint from a private party, and he has no complaints - but - he does not work in a field where he must carry it and possibly depend upon it to defend himself or others. At this point in time, he is strictly a recreational bullseye shooter, and usually takes his time between rounds fired. He has reported no functioning problems, but also (along with some other published reports) has said he has "some difficulty" operating the safety. One of these days I'll have to take a closer look at it. After all, launching a projectile toward a target "ain't about purty" - it's about accuracy for some, and "neutralizing the threat" for others. Pax...
 

FreeInAZ

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Let me see if I can clarify this point one more time... I wasn't badmouthing the HiPoint. I was questioning the judgment of somebody who may have to rely upon a pistol in his job, and then choosing one with reported functional inconsistencies. My nephew recently purchased a used HiPoint from a private party, and he has no complaints - but - he does not work in a field where he must carry it and possibly depend upon it to defend himself or others. At this point in time, he is strictly a recreational bullseye shooter, and usually takes his time between rounds fired. He has reported no functioning problems, but also (along with some other published reports) has said he has "some difficulty" operating the safety. One of these days I'll have to take a closer look at it. After all, launching a projectile toward a target "ain't about purty" - it's about accuracy for some, and "neutralizing the threat" for others. Pax...

Well can you link to these published" reports"? I'd like to read them. Now as for the safety on the HP's, they are a simple flip lever. Depending on ones hand size & thumb size, I guess I could see some people not being comfortable with using it. But then some people would starve to death if the power to their electric can opener was lost??? For me its perfect. To each their own.
 
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WalkingWolf

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Let me see if I can clarify this point one more time... I wasn't badmouthing the HiPoint. I was questioning the judgment of somebody who may have to rely upon a pistol in his job, and then choosing one with reported functional inconsistencies. My nephew recently purchased a used HiPoint from a private party, and he has no complaints - but - he does not work in a field where he must carry it and possibly depend upon it to defend himself or others. At this point in time, he is strictly a recreational bullseye shooter, and usually takes his time between rounds fired. He has reported no functioning problems, but also (along with some other published reports) has said he has "some difficulty" operating the safety. One of these days I'll have to take a closer look at it. After all, launching a projectile toward a target "ain't about purty" - it's about accuracy for some, and "neutralizing the threat" for others. Pax...

I wasn't badmouthing your posts, I was just pointing to the lack of cites and evidence in your claims...:lol:
 

Gil223

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I wasn't badmouthing your posts, I was just pointing to the lack of cites and evidence in your claims...:lol:
Let me restate this from post #17 for you and the AZ kid...
If you were truly concerned about "verifiable reports" you would look them up yourself - try Googling "HiPoint reviews" and "HiPoint field tests".
I didn't read the OP and then immediately go hunting for HiPoint reviews - these are reports I came across probably 6-8 months ago, when my nephew bought his HiPoint. I don't recall exactly where I found them, and - although I am disinclined to search for them again - here's a couple to get you going:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/05/benjamin-t-shotzberger/gun-review-hi-point-c9-9mm-pistol/

and the other side of the coin...

http://www.handgunsmag.com/2013/02/14/hi-point-c9-review/

Inasmuch as I have no personal experience with HiPoint pistols, I was honest enough to not say "HiPoints suck", and posted both ends of the reported spectrum. To wit:
However, the Hi Point has gotten mixed reviews, running the gamut from "A flaming POS!" to "Built like a tank, 500 rounds with no malfunctions", and everything in between.
You can hunt for more on your own. And AGAIN, I will state that my personal carry weapon philosophy tells me it was a judgment error for the security guy (?) to buy a gun for "professional" use, that has had seriously conflicting reviews. Nobody has to agree with that - it's MY opinion and therefore cannot be "wrong" in my mind. Yet my opinion can be viewed as mistaken, prejudiced, erroneous or whatever in the minds of others. I also understand that there a very few reviewers who are without their personal likes and dislikes, which may set their agenda for a review. There are also publishers that insist reviewers check to see how many advertising dollars Company X spends with their rag. Therefore I am not compelled by any force to defend my opinion or the opinions of reviewers, and I am finished doing so in this thread. :lol: Pax...
 

WalkingWolf

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You post a review that was nothing but a bashfest from the start to finish, with no sound proof, a person who is not a professional. And everyone recognizes as trash. And you claim you are not trying to bash Hi Points. If that is all you got, then what you have is sad. The guy lied, or he does not have any idea of how to handle a gun. People like him are idiots. The dumba$$ didn't even bother to send the gun back if something was wrong with it. What a idiot! I suggest you check out a actual video like one from the gunshop that did a valid torture test, ya know with actual video to back up what they said. IMO the person that did the review you put up was attempting to do the same thing you are, bashing the choice of others, and being a snob. I'll post the actual segments of the torture test once I locate them, then you can see how hearsay from snobs makes others downright fools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FoWpog5KU4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HXtEvjlGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTBG01eYn78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Isr3l8lPV8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl-zQveq378

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T3F3v7ZVlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmhM6jhDKbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zFxLzFeVMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fNVAB1LGCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqB6ZJPHSkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUsZ0C7IuUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qadliANxzIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VCvW7h427k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV52_rpzBF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MUZlRHWqGU
 
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KYGlockster

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Please provide some cites that any gun is not reliable, instead rumors. I have heard stories of the tupperware Glock blowing up in the shooters hands, FTF, FTE. And usually the Glunk owners respond with it is the shooters fault, because they do not want to admit that a gun costing 1/3 the cost has a better reputation and better service then a Glunk. And what the hell does the looks have to do with the function of a firearm.

There will be a HP owner along soon from Arizona to spank you I would guess. I have been reading about Hi Points for a good year, and most of the claims are bull droppings. I have seen them shoot, and they are extremely reliable, durable, and amazingly accurate. So much so, I bought one for the wife to plink with. Just got it, and round after round it goes bang, ejects and feeds without failure. And the groupings, so far out of 100 rounds without a failure with full power loads, one hole in the target off hand at 10 yards. That hole is only three inches in diameter, there is not a glunk around that can do that.

Second handgun I ever owned; it failed to feed every other magazine.

Now, I own a Glock in every caliber except .45 G.A.P. and I have NEVER had a Glock fail to feed. I have never had a Glock that didn't go BANG! every time I pulled the trigger either. This happened several times with the Hi-Point.

I'm all for cheap guns because it allows those that can't afford anything else to arm themselves, but I would NEVER carry a Hi-Point as a defensive firearm. I'm not the only one that has had this problem with a Hi-Point that I know of either.

People can get offensive when the Glocks are mentioned all they want, but you don't see 65% of American law-enforcement carrying Hi-Points for a reason.
 

WalkingWolf

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I showed plenty of videos of Glunks jamming, and later I will post Glunk Kabooms. Glock is a good gun, but so is a Hi Point which costs much less, and has an incredible warranty that Glunks do not. I think if Glock had the same warranty as HP Glock would go broke. Personally I believe Glunk owners just can't stand it that others can afford a better gun, with a better warranty. I can walk into any LGS and they will have the same Glunks they had last time I visit. But the HPs sell the same day they put them out. I bought my HP from a online dealer, I had been waiting weeks for them to show up online, they sent me a notice when they arrived. They were sold out in minutes, but they always have glunks, I passed on the potential kaboom Glocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U3hlcJRtPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q9O-wVfQ-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX1OHxy9ck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAL6dmrcHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP7CYxvwy4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGpeURxxQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGpeURxxQs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wroMx4kjoqc
 
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FreeInAZ

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@Gil223 - "The AZ kid...that's funny. Thanks. :D. Hey you are not a HP fan that's no big deal in my book. I too own and shoot Glocks. Another very good gun. Both have been called trash by gun snobs. When I bought my first glock it cost me $419 20 years ago, that's 4+ times what my first Hi-Point cost me $89 20 years ago. Today a glock runs $600 + while the Hi-Point goes for around $200. Now a difference of 3 to 1. Hi-Point must doing something right? Putting it that way, hey bash the heck out of them. I don't want to pay $300 for my next one.

I and many others (hundreds of thousands) know the value & reliablity of HP's. :p
Sincerely - The AZ kid... ;)
 

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Odd for a security guard to be carrying a firearm, no?

Hmm... Astute observation!

I'd probably have asked the guard, "Do you have a holster in which you can safely carry your firearm?" It ID's a problem, the solution, and puts him on notice that people are noticing, yet without interfering in any direct manner.
 
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WalkingWolf

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Personally I don't care that the security guard is armed or if he has a holster or not. Unless he bothers me, it is none of my business. I think, IMO, that probably he was not working and going to or from work. It is none of my business, I treat people as I wish to be treated, so I would just leave him alone.
 

Gil223

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IMO the person that did the review you put up was attempting to do the same thing you are, bashing the choice of others, and being a snob.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you have my condolences for being so insecure that you see any questioning of some unknown third-person's choice as "bashing". Yet you feel it's just fine for you to reference "Glunks" in your posts. Once again, I DID NOT BASH HP's, just the wisdom of OP's main character in his post. In your haste to go on the defensive, you obviously missed the fact that I own an HP 9mm 995TS carbine. Sheeeesh... get a grip. :banghead:

P.S. You stated that all your HPs are essentially superb handguns, and I never once questioned that - I accepted it as fact. But, sooner or later every company will let a clunker get by - some days are diamond, some days are coal.
 
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cteaglesfan

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I would assume that if he is employed by the store, he would only do what they allow him to do. So, I guess I would mind my business and keep it moving.

It sounds like if he shoots someone, it will only be himself :lol:
 
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