Plankton
Regular Member
So if I keep it on the dash, I should be ok?
Not within 1000 feet of a school. Then it must be unloaded and encased.
So if I keep it on the dash, I should be ok?
Even though they lost the case against me,
IMO yes, Milwaukee PD officers have been told that any gun in a car is automatically concealed & will arrest anyone found OC in a car w/o a carry license.
They & the DA's office are deliberately ignoring the transport statute upgrade which was part of Act 35,
as well as the WI Constitutional amendment in 1998 protecting RKBA,
as well as Act 51(?) which again amended the transport statute and allowed for long guns to be unloaded & unencased in a vehicle.
I can't speak for MPD but this isn't true for the agency I work for. Nor is it true by what an ADA told us at a training session in July 2012. Nor is it true according to what Assistant Attorney General Dave perlman stated at the Act 35 conference I attended.
We are not looking to arrest someone by stretching what is/isn't concealed in a vehicle. And we had considerable intercourse on what was concealed and what isn't. What it comes down to is we're to consider a gun legal/legally carried unless it is overwhelmingly obvious that it is not legal/legally carried. And open carry in a vehicle w/o permit is legal. We were told anything above the door handle where someone immediately outside the vehicle could see it was to be considered open.
All this nonsense is why we all need to mind our p's&q's and not do anything stupid. After a few years of the ccw law when folks realize there aren't wild west gun fights and blood flowing in the streets we can switch to constitutional carry like we should have gotten in the first place and all this worry about what is concealed and where will be a non-issue.
How do you explain what happened to MKE? Rogue cops?
I agree it was something they should check out.Miltown OC said:If I was a cop and saw a random car in a parking lot I'd be a little suspicious also.
My lawyer's partner had some more colorful things to say.But they just nailed her with charges because they are dicks.
It is in a cops job description to basically treat everybody they meet with disrespect.
You don't speak for me.Snake161 said:experience denotes otherwise. Not just mine. But everybody that has dealt with cops.
... please don't lecture me that there are good cops out there. There isn't. They all operate outside of the law.
... No cop is a good cop.
Well my friend, you can say as you please. Benefits of living in this country. However, experience denotes otherwise. Not just mine. But everybody that has dealt with cops. From a minor traffic violation such as seat belts, to showing up and seeing somebody open carrying on their OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY. So please don't lecture me that there are good cops out there. There isn't. They all operate outside of the law.
I tend to consider myself to be a clean, upper middle class, well educated individual. But through my life experiences,and from the words of others, and learning and knowing about our countries constitution, police as well as the federal gov. take more power then they are allowed. No cop is a good cop.
Like I said, everybody has their opinion and you are wholly entitled to it. Just as I am.
It is in a cops job description to basically treat everybody they meet with disrespect,
Like I said, everybody has their opinion and you are wholly entitled to it. Just as I am. I'm sorry, MKE, that you have gone through two court cases because of the ignorance of cops, but still feel as though they have some shred of sympathy...as I understand you have a cop "friend". Each to his or her own, I suppose. And as far as you, plankton, just remember what I have said; and in the back of your head someday, slowly, it will bubble to the surface and you will utter these few words: "He told me so". But anyway, I have no need nor want for any of you to agree with me or disagree with me. I felt compelled to pen a reply for the simple fact that somebody on here has a bleeding heart for cops......
Snake~