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    Gay pride???

    Are you kidding me? Is that what OC.org is stooping to now? My main page has an advertisement having to do with "kinky boots"......really? Sick!!

    http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...76555251245955
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    Not sure what the problem is? OCDO is a Google site, and Google ads will appear on the site. Is it the gay pride part that is offensive or that it is a ad using Gay Pride for advertising? Could you clear that up?

    BTW most of the ads appear because of cookies of where you have been visiting~~Very interesting...
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    If you don't like the gay ad, just click on it a buncha times so they have to pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    If you don't like the gay ad, just click on it a buncha times so they have to pay.
    But that will make more ads like it show up. What people don't get when they complain of these ads they are showing up because of their history in cookies. We do not all see the same ads, except maybe for gun related ads, BECAUSE? We are loging into a gun site when we log into OCDO.

    For advertising to be profitable it has to be directed towards those who have shown a interest.
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    Re: Gay pride???

    If you are seeing those ads it it's because someone used your PC to look at websites or products that indicated a potential interest in that subject.

    That being said, wtf is your problem with gay pride?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctclassic View Post
    Are you kidding me? Is that what OC.org is stooping to now? My main page has an advertisement having to do with "kinky boots"......really? Sick!!

    http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...76555251245955
    Welcome to the Internet, where ads appear based on your browsing history.

    Maybe if you weren't obsessed with gays and reading stories about them, you wouldn't be seeing such ads.

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    I am wondering when the OP will return to answer a few questions...
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    My local group, Washington Open Carry, Whatcom County Chapter, was invited to set up an info table at this years Gay Pride Festival in B'ham . Talk about a viable audience, they have always been targets.
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    I agree it is really sick...I just don't understand why it is ok for that type of crap, but as soon as you see something for traditional marriage or being straight. All of a sudden your a discriminatory racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    SNIP My local group...
    That last clause might not be the best choice of words.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdt1970 View Post
    I agree it is really sick...I just don't understand why it is ok for that type of crap, but as soon as you see something for traditional marriage or being straight. All of a sudden your a discriminatory racists.
    I said this before in another thread, but it bears repeating:

    There are two aspects to what we call "marriage";

    1. A religious ceremony in which the government has no business interfering and
    2. A civil contract between two legal adults in which religion has no business interfering.

    None of those who scream about "traditional marriage" care to look at the fact that, for many years, the government did not interfere with the religious ceremony, not even to the extent of requiring a license. If a church, or other religious body chooses not to perform the ceremony for a same-sex couple, that is within their jurisdiction.

    On the other side of the coin, the government cannot sanction, by issuing a license, a civil contract for one group of people and, for religious reasons, completely exclude another group.

    And, yes, one aspect of what we call marriage is definitely a civil contract. Why do you think it takes a court of law to dissolve that contract?

    One other point: We here on OCDO stand in support of the right of all men and women to bear arms in self defense. That is a civil right which some call a "God-given" and others call a "natural" right. It is still a right. It is just as much a right of two legal adults to be issued a license to enter into a legal contract.

    Last comment: We may not like homosexuals or homosexuality; our particular religious beliefs may condemn it heartily; and we may choose not to associate with those individuals engaged in such activities. But we may not infringe on their rights, and unless we are hypocrites, we should legally do whatever is necessary to keep our government agencies from infringing on their rights.
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    OP: clear your cookies and don't browse gay-related sites any more, & you probably won't see more ads like that. I've never seen anything but gun-related ads. (Well, there is one recurring ad something about a book...)

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    it is really sick... that type of crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFCRetired View Post
    I said this before in another thread, but it bears repeating:

    There are two aspects to what we call "marriage";

    1. A religious ceremony in which the government has no business interfering and
    2. A civil contract between two legal adults in which religion has no business interfering.

    None of those who scream about "traditional marriage" care to look at the fact that, for many years, the government did not interfere with the religious ceremony, not even to the extent of requiring a license. If a church, or other religious body chooses not to perform the ceremony for a same-sex couple, that is within their jurisdiction.

    On the other side of the coin, the government cannot sanction, by issuing a license, a civil contract for one group of people and, for religious reasons, completely exclude another group.

    And, yes, one aspect of what we call marriage is definitely a civil contract. Why do you think it takes a court of law to dissolve that contract?

    One other point: We here on OCDO stand in support of the right of all men and women to bear arms in self defense. That is a civil right which some call a "God-given" and others call a "natural" right. It is still a right. It is just as much a right of two legal adults to be issued a license to enter into a legal contract.

    Last comment: We may not like homosexuals or homosexuality; our particular religious beliefs may condemn it heartily; and we may choose not to associate with those individuals engaged in such activities.But we may not infringe on their rights, and unless we are hypocrites, we should legally do whatever is necessary to keep our government agencies from infringing on their rights.
    +1

    Instead of saying we may not infringe on their rights, I would argue that we should not tolerate or pretend to authorize government to infringe on their rights. Its a pet-peeve of mine. We are not the government and government is not us. Government in this country long ago stopped representing the people.
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    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Marriage has always been (at least until recently) a union between one man and one woman. All unmarried adults have had the right to enter into that union. There never has been discrimination against homosexuals. They have always been free to enter into such a union. Many have.

    If some want the state to recognize other unions, they merely need to define those unions and get the state to recognize them, whether they be between two men, two women, three men and a goat, or whatever.

    What I find unacceptable is that this is some kind of "rights" issue. The more we cloud real rights issues with these silly privilege issues, the easier we make it for the government to ignore the fact that they are usurping our rights while they make a big show of allowing us more privileges and claiming that they fighting for our rights.
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    Oh, and I would not assume that the OP is getting the "gay rights" crap (and I do mean, "crap") because he is visiting homosexual sites. This site has enough discussions on the "gay rights" crap to cause context-sensitive ads on that subject to come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    OP: clear your cookies and don't browse gay-related sites any more, & you probably won't see more ads like that. I've never seen anything but gun-related ads. (Well, there is one recurring ad something about a book...)


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    I don't see them in my internet usage. I was mearly agreeing with the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Marriage has always been (at least until recently) a union between one man and one woman.
    Other than thousands of years of polygamy, you mean?

    Marriage isn't even a traditional church matter, except for recent history. The first time marriage became an official church matter was in 1562, with the 24th session of the Council of Trent, where a canon was adopted that said marriage would only be official if performed in the church by an ordained priest.

    The reason? To stop the offensive and "sinful" practice of marrying Protestants.

    In the Protestant world, the pre-Trent standard continued. In pioneer America, months or years would pass before a marriage was sanctioned in church, if it ever was; there were often several children in attendance. These common-law marriages were just as valid in the eyes of government and church as they were in society.

    And then, a new form of offensive marriage cropped up: interracial marriage. Anti-miscegenation laws combined with anti-cohabitation laws to create a ban on even common-law marriages between the races. This legal restriction didn't end until SCOTUS stopped it with Loving v. Virginia in 1967.

    Just like gun control, government marriage licenses in America have racist roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Other than thousands of years of polygamy, you mean?

    Marriage isn't even a traditional church matter, except for recent history. The first time marriage became an official church matter was in 1562, with the 24th session of the Council of Trent, where a canon was adopted that said marriage would only be official if performed in the church by an ordained priest.

    The reason? To stop the offensive and "sinful" practice of marrying Protestants.

    In the Protestant world, the pre-Trent standard continued. In pioneer America, months or years would pass before a marriage was sanctioned in church, if it ever was; there were often several children in attendance. These common-law marriages were just as valid in the eyes of government and church as they were in society.

    And then, a new form of offensive marriage cropped up: interracial marriage. Anti-miscegenation laws combined with anti-cohabitation laws to create a ban on even common-law marriages between the races. This legal restriction didn't end until SCOTUS stopped it with Loving v. Virginia in 1967.

    Just like gun control, government marriage licenses in America have racist roots.
    This is the kind of post that makes me look forward to reading OCDO each day.
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    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Other than thousands of years of polygamy, you mean?...
    If you choose to ignore the context of our current culture and the cultures it immediately sprung from...

    I knew someone would pick that particular nit rather than deal with the substance. Thanks for proving my hunch right.

    Care to deal with the substance of the post, or just nibble around the edges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Welcome to the Internet, where ads appear based on your browsing history.

    Maybe if you weren't obsessed with gays and reading stories about them, you wouldn't be seeing such ads.
    Yup.

    I promise you, those of us who don't give a damn what anybody else gets into (so long as it's not aggressive) don't find ourselves seeing ads for others' lifestyles. Why? Because we're too busy browsing for stuff related to our own lifestyles – the ads I see are gun stuff and electronics. It's ironic, too, because we would be the least offended were we to actually such ads relevant to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Other than thousands of years of polygamy, you mean?

    Marriage isn't even a traditional church matter, except for recent history. The first time marriage became an official church matter was in 1562, with the 24th session of the Council of Trent, where a canon was adopted that said marriage would only be official if performed in the church by an ordained priest.

    The reason? To stop the offensive and "sinful" practice of marrying Protestants.

    In the Protestant world, the pre-Trent standard continued. In pioneer America, months or years would pass before a marriage was sanctioned in church, if it ever was; there were often several children in attendance. These common-law marriages were just as valid in the eyes of government and church as they were in society.

    And then, a new form of offensive marriage cropped up: interracial marriage. Anti-miscegenation laws combined with anti-cohabitation laws to create a ban on even common-law marriages between the races. This legal restriction didn't end until SCOTUS stopped it with Loving v. Virginia in 1967.

    Just like gun control, government marriage licenses in America have racist roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    If you choose to ignore the context of our current culture and the cultures it immediately sprung from...

    I knew someone would pick that particular nit rather than deal with the substance. Thanks for proving my hunch right.

    Care to deal with the substance of the post, or just nibble around the edges?
    Speaking of nits to pick, I believe I dealt with the substance of your comments quite thoroughly, in the rest of my post that you snipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Speaking of nits to pick, I believe I dealt with the substance of your comments quite thoroughly, in the rest of my post that you snipped.
    Nah. You just went off on your own theoretical rant. One I found not worth a reply.

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    Ah, yes... those "theoretical" cites to recorded historical facts.

    Pesky, those.

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    Doesn't Google use recent search history and cookies to display relevant ads to the user? Just saying.

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