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    Anyone on here from St. Joseph? What's the climate like? I've OC'd a couple times around town, and gotten kicked from North belt walmart, but haven't seen anyone else OCing lately. Any takers?

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    Hey everyone im another new guy here, im not from st joe but i live about 30 miles north if there. I have had my ccw for about six yrs now but here in the last few months i have really started getting into the open carry side of things, i am lucky in that my town does not have and ordinance against oc they go by what state law says so right now i just oc when my wife and i go out walking i just havent tried it anywhere else yet, we do travel to st joe almost every weekend but i stick with ccw for now i am waiting on hb436 to kick in before i oc more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderstorm View Post
    Hey everyone im another new guy here, im not from st joe but i live about 30 miles north if there. I have had my ccw for about six yrs now but here in the last few months i have really started getting into the open carry side of things, i am lucky in that my town does not have and ordinance against oc they go by what state law says so right now i just oc when my wife and i go out walking i just havent tried it anywhere else yet, we do travel to st joe almost every weekend but i stick with ccw for now i am waiting on hb436 to kick in before i oc more often.
    The world waits for HB436. July 14th is the deadline for the Governor to act, or better yet, not act!
    we'll see..........
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    Re: St. Joseph

    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    The world waits for HB436. July 14th is the deadline for the Governor to act, or better yet, not act!
    we'll see..........
    Well, I don't know about the entire world, but I'm certainly waiting.

    As far as St Joe goes, what I hear is that OC is legal, but the police don't like it. And sometimes the courts agree with them. HB436 isn't going to change those facts one iota. OC is already legal and laws do not typically change people's minds. Having said that, it would be poor strategy to rock the boat before the 15th, but if you don't mind the police harassment, carry on after that.

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    NOT rocking the boat is very important till after July 14th!!!! Very true.
    As far as legal vs.not legal the OC part of HB436 will give you protection under the law for OC with CCW. IF you are illegally arrested for OC after Aug. 28th, if the law goes into effect you will have very good recourse to seek a judgement against the law enforcement officer and department for false arrest.

    I have do doubt that if 436 becomes law every law enforcment offcier in the State will know about it.

    Many of us will aid in the education of municipal government in regard to OC in Missouri.


    Quote Originally Posted by kcgunfan View Post
    Well, I don't know about the entire world, but I'm certainly waiting.

    As far as St Joe goes, what I hear is that OC is legal, but the police don't like it. And sometimes the courts agree with them. HB436 isn't going to change those facts one iota. OC is already legal and laws do not typically change people's minds. Having said that, it would be poor strategy to rock the boat before the 15th, but if you don't mind the police harassment, carry on after that.

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    A low profile at this juncture is very good advice. The times they are a changing and patience is a virtue. Though, my back is beginning to hurt from keeping a low profile.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    A low profile at this juncture is very good advice. The times they are a changing and patience is a virtue. Though, my back is beginning to hurt from keeping a low profile.....
    Ibuprofen for 10 days....
    If you pull it, you use it. If you pull it and you don't use it, you've done some thing wrong and you might not get another chance. Think about it before you pack it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyBearMedic View Post
    Anyone on here from St. Joseph? What's the climate like? I've OC'd a couple times around town, and gotten kicked from North belt walmart, but haven't seen anyone else OCing lately. Any takers?
    Been open carrying for 2-3 years in St. Joe, I'm in north belt Wal-Mart every week for the last couple years, never a problem.
    In fact, I had one of the managers shake my hand and thank me for carrying. Have been seen many times by police in Wal-Mart, again, no problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    Ibuprofen for 10 days....
    Thanks. I prefer a medicinal concoction manufactured near a small town south of Nashville and west of Chattanooga.

    PM sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Thanks. I prefer a medicinal concoction manufactured near a small town south of Nashville and west of Chattanooga.

    PM sent.
    I believe that is supplied in a "Ball" jar as not necessarily in a pharmacy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    I believe that is supplied in a "Ball" jar as not necessarily in a pharmacy?

    No, it is square with a black label.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    No, it is square with a black label.
    Hummm, the only one I'm familiar with simply says "Ball", must be a different vintage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    Hummm, the only one I'm familiar with simply says "Ball", must be a different vintage?
    Old No 7 from Lynchburg Tn in Moore county which indeed is a DRY county so while the black label square bottle is indeed filled there, so would be a lot of what you are speaking of as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mspgunner View Post
    Ibuprofen for 10 days....
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
    Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    Old No 7 from Lynchburg Tn in Moore county which indeed is a DRY county so while the black label square bottle is indeed filled there, so would be a lot of what you are speaking of as well.
    NASCAR got its start out of a mason jar I seem to recall.

    Anyway.....

    Not many members here on OCDO OC in St. Joe.

    or

    There is nothing to report in St. Joe. Which is good, maybe.

    My observation does not answer the OPs question.....unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Not many members here on OCDO OC in St. Joe.

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    There is nothing to report in St. Joe. Which is good, maybe.
    Yes and yes....

    I've never seen anyone else OC in St. Joe, although I'm sure there are some.

    I OC everywhere and it's always ignored (been told I look like a cop which may be why)

    I've been seen many times in different business's and on the street by police but they never react, good or bad.

    All seems good here

    I suspect that reaction depends on the appearance of the OC'r, a 52yo balding man, nicely dressed (me usually)
    will get less attention than a 22yo, long hair, tats with his pants hanging down

    Would that be OC profiling?
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    Well now that hb436 has been vetoed for now i still want to oc alot more often and like some i am still a little nervous trying it in st joe, i dont want trouble from business or anything like that and really dont want to cause any problems with the bill that is still up in the air buti just might say to hell with it and try it next time i am there, a out the only places i go to are sams, aldies, wal-mart and the mall once in awhile and a few resteraunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderstorm View Post
    Well now that hb436 has been vetoed for now i still want to oc alot more often and like some i am still a little nervous trying it in st joe, i dont want trouble from business or anything like that and really dont want to cause any problems with the bill that is still up in the air buti just might say to hell with it and try it next time i am there, a out the only places i go to are sams, aldies, wal-mart and the mall once in awhile and a few resteraunts.
    The mall is posted, no firearms....only place I've seen posted besides banks.

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    Thanks we usually go in threw gordmans or jcp but i have never seen a sign yet i guess i better pay mor attention, thanks again

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    Another new guy here. I have my CCW, and in most cases, I carry concealed. However, I OC while riding my bike in South St. Joe. I usually ride around Lake Contrary, around Hyde Park, up to the top of King Hill, and back. I haven't had any problems so far, but I'm usually riding in the early mornings to get it out of the way before it gets too hot. I do get some stares, especially if I go into a convenience store, and I've even had a St. Joe PD officer follow me in his cruiser for about a quarter mile, but I've never been stopped or harassed.

    That could be because I'm new though. I just started OC'ing last year.

    For anyone curious, I carry a Glock 19 in a serpa with one spare mag.

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    Hey all, another new guy here from St Joe. Been lurking around for a while and contacting Reps when suggested for supporting open carry. I just feel that a law abiding citizen shouldn't have to hide his side arm because the uninformed do not know how to deal with it. I open carry some and have not had any issues yet, just some disapproving looks. Maybe us St Joe folks should meet and see if we can help support the work of others?

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    Cool

    I live in st joe and have been ocing for about 6 years now and had only one problem with Leo's and that was 4 years ago not any problems since, there is a meet and greet for coffee Saturday morning at Starbucks come one come all

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyBearMedic View Post
    Anyone on here from St. Joseph? What's the climate like? I've OC'd a couple times around town, and gotten kicked from North belt walmart, but haven't seen anyone else OCing lately. Any takers?
    I have a funny story about the south Belt Walmart...I was OCing with my wife walking in one day, and one of the little old walmart greeting ladies asked me to stay with her while she got a manager to check to see if I was OK to shop while OCing. I kinda rolled my eyes and thought, "Here we go..." The manager came over (a woman in her 20's) and just said, "Yeah he's fine, it's legal."

    My jaw about dropped, and I said thank you and went about my business. Never had any problems with law enforcement...was even pulled over once with it on my hip, officer never said a word about it.

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    Not a St. Joe story but related somewhat.

    I was talking to a couple of Troy cops at the Lincoln County Fair, well, I over heard them talking and butted in. Anyway, they were discussing a 911 MWAG call received recently and dissing on idiot people who go nuts over seeing a gun on a person's hip. I asked, "what did the dispatcher tell the responding cop?" "We did not respond, well started to roll that direction.", they said. "Why not?" "Well, the dispatcher asked one simple little question, what kind of gun is it?", "I don't know it's in a holster." The dispatcher educated the caller.

    That is evidence of OC progress.

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