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Illinois Governor vetoes parts of concealed carry gun bill

davidmcbeth

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BB62 said:
You guys need to give up - because, as the $hitcago Sun Times reasons oh so well: "So a man packing 10 guns, some peeking out of his jacket, goes into a restaurant and gets drunk and boisterous. Good idea?..."

http://www.suntimes.com/opinions/21101371-474/legislature-should-accept-changes-to-gun-bill.html
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[strike]Better[/strike] Best idea:

The Sun Times should be limited to one (1) article per edition and it can only be concealed - no openly published stories. Further each should be limited to ten (10) words per submission.

Carrying an edition into a bar cannot be permitted - people might get into violent arguments about the content + children should never, ever be exposed to such vile thoughts.
 
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Keep in mind the home rule communities cannot pass felony laws. Any laws they pass will be misdemeanor law. State laws would be felonies.

Several counties have already decided not to enforce such laws already. And the battle in these little RURAL towns would be much easier than having Chicago controlling the state.

Then let's not forget that these misdemeanor laws will still end up in the federal circuit court, probably bringing another ruling slapping the towns and states. Get them mad and the next step may be to eliminate FOID.

Probably only a small handful of cities would pass their own gun laws. Chicago, Springfield, Decatur, ~~~

You guys are letting them scare you with the home rule doo doo.
 
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From my understanding of the amendatory veto, the bills sponsor has the sole discretion to accept the governors changes, or go for an override. The bills sponsor, Brandon Phelps has already filed for an override. If passed HB183 becomes law. If the override fails, the bill is dead. If it does then FOID card carry with no statewide standards will be the law of Illinois until something is passed or the State Attorney General gets a stay of the order subsequent to a SCOTUS appeal. That deadline I believe is the 24th of July.
 
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Is it that if the override fails with greater than 50% in support of the override but less than 60%, then the bill is dead too?
 
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Illinois Constitution
Section 9. Veto procedure
(a) every bill passed by the general assembly shall be
presented to the governor within 30 calendar days after its
passage. The foregoing requirement shall be judicially
enforceable. If the governor approves the bill, he shall sign
it and it shall become law.
(b) if the governor does not approve the bill, he shall
veto it by returning it with his objections to the house in
which it originated. Any bill not so returned by the governor
within 60 calendar days after it is presented to him shall
become law. If recess or adjournment of the general assembly
prevents the return of a bill, the bill and the governor's
objections shall be filed with the secretary of state within
such 60 calendar days. The secretary of state shall return
the bill and objections to the originating house promptly
upon the next meeting of the same general assembly at which
the bill can be considered.
(c) the house to which a bill is returned shall
immediately enter the governor's objections upon its journal.
If within 15 calendar days after such entry that house by a
record vote of three-fifths of the members elected passes the
bill, it shall be delivered immediately to the second house.
If within 15 calendar days after such delivery the second
house by a record vote of three-fifths of the members elected
passes the bill, it shall become law.
(d) the governor may reduce or veto any item of
appropriations in a bill presented to him. Portions of a bill
not reduced or vetoed shall become law. An item vetoed shall
be returned to the house in which it originated and may
become law in the same manner as a vetoed bill. An item
reduced in amount shall be returned to the house in which it
originated and may be restored to its original amount in the
same manner as a vetoed bill except that the required record
vote shall be a majority of the members elected to each
house. If a reduced item is not so restored, it shall become
law in the reduced amount.
(e) the governor may return a bill together with
specific recommendations for change to the house in which it
originated. The bill shall be considered in the same manner
as a vetoed bill but the specific recommendations may be
accepted by a record vote of a majority of the members
elected to each house. Such bill shall be presented again to
the governor and if he certifies that such acceptance
conforms to his specific recommendations, the bill shall
become law. If he does not so certify, he shall return it as
a vetoed bill to the house in which it originated.
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Seems pretty straight forward to me.
 
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