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    Supreme Court Rules Fifth Amendment Has to Actually Be Invoked

    Basically, say "I am taking the 5th and then SHUT THE F--- UP !!!! " Here is the link. Please read. Your freedom may depend on it in a self defense shooting.

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/17/su...-amendment-has


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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE View Post
    Basically, say "I am taking the 5th and then SHUT THE F--- UP !!!! " Here is the link. Please read. Your freedom may depend on it in a self defense shooting.

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/06/17/su...-amendment-has


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    Does the same apply to the 4th? If a cop decides to walk into your home without a warrant, unless you are there and tell him no, is he free to come in and rifle through your sock drawer? Oh, that's right, the patriot act, they do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Does the same apply to the 4th? If a cop decides to walk into your home without a warrant, unless you are there and tell him no, is he free to come in and rifle through your sock drawer? Oh, that's right, the patriot act, they do.

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    TBG,

    I do not believe that the Patriot Act extends any additional 'authority' to state and local police, only Federal law enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Does the same apply to the 4th? If a cop decides to walk into your home without a warrant, unless you are there and tell him no, is he free to come in and rifle through your sock drawer? Oh, that's right, the patriot act, they do.



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    I came home one day and found a soldier in my bed ...

    I said "hey man! 3rd amendment"

    he said "you did not tell me not to quarter here, sucks to be you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbogo470 View Post
    TBG,

    I do not believe that the Patriot Act extends any additional 'authority' to state and local police, only Federal law enforcement.

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    The Patriot act extends to wherever they seem to want it to extend.

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    Miranda

    Just thinking, what does this decision do to Miranda? "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."

    Don't they have to change it now to say something like: " You have the right to remain silent, but only if you tell me you’re not going to talk and wish to invoke your 5th amendment right. Anything you say, or your silence, can and will be used against you in a court of law."

    Of course they won't change it to say "5th amendment right" because in newspeak "right" has been changed to "privilege".

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    since when is a right subject to a vote? Even a SCOTUS vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    since when is a right subject to a vote? Even a SCOTUS vote?
    There you go with that logic stuff again. As I said, you have no rights, only privileges. Don't forget that all animals are crated equal, just some are more equal than others (Animal Farm). Keep your place slave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    There you go with that logic stuff again. As I said, you have no rights, only privileges. Don't forget that all animals are crated equal, just some are more equal than others (Animal Farm). Keep your place slave...

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    Last time I found a soldier in my bed, I had to break up with my girlfriend

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyray9 View Post
    Last time I found a soldier in my bed, I had to break up with my girlfriend
    female soldier? you did not turn her gay, did you? hahaha

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    Supreme Court Rules Fifth Amendment Has to Actually Be Invoked

    Yeah... so much for the "government" respecting the Bill of Rights... it's only a "right" if one "claims" it to be... otherwise the "government" can and will do whatever it wants whenever it wants. But I already knew that. And we think there's such a thing as checks and balances... there's no such thing; the "government" is the "government," no matter if it "wears" long black robes, slick tailor made suits, or overalls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcmustang View Post
    ....the "government" is the "government," no matter if it "wears" long black robes...
    Grumpy old men in long black robes are not that much different than grumpy old men in long white robes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Grumpy old men in long black robes are not that much different than grumpy old men in long white robes...
    You're sexist. You didn't mention grumpy old women in long black robes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    You're sexist. You didn't mention grumpy old women in long black robes.

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    Because in white robes, they are charmers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Does the same apply to the 4th? If a cop decides to walk into your home without a warrant, unless you are there and tell him no, is he free to come in and rifle through your sock drawer? Oh, that's right, the patriot act, they do.



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    TBG,

    Unfortunately a majority of Americans "think" the Patriot Act gives the police license to run roughshod over your rights. I have grown quite concerned about the "militarization" of local and state police to the point where they "think" they are the FBI/BATF/TSA all rolled into one since 2001. As yet, there haven't been any major USSC court decisions where police try to act like Homeland Security and get their asses handed to them. See, the Feds through Obama stimulus money have been beefing up local cops to "keep" the sheep inline. All it takes is the right USSC decision against them to quash this crap.

    IF, a police officer were to trespass on my property and was not pursuing a crime suspect or conducting a fact finding quest concerning an alleged crime, I would sue the department AND him personally. I have the time and the money.

    IANAL, but research over the years convinces me I can sue him criminally and civilly as did the family of the the O.J. Simpson murders, They did win in civil court. The best way to stop officers from doing what they do is when they lose their house, car and all their possessions. You go after their homeowners insurance company, their auto insurance company and then themselves personally. Word gets around real quick when they lose.

    Oh, ****. I hope the No Surveillance Activity is reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE View Post
    TBG,

    ...All it takes is the right USSC decision against them to quash this crap...

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    Have you read the title of this thread? "right USSC decision?" Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I came home one day and found a soldier in my bed ...

    I said "hey man! 3rd amendment"

    he said "you did not tell me not to quarter here, sucks to be you"
    Funny you should mention the 3rd...

    Nevada Family Says Police Occupation of Homes Violated the Third Amendment

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/05/nevada-family-says-police-occupation-vio

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