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    Former anti-gun Virginia Attorney General banned from school property

    http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/st...9bb30f31a.html

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    Former Virginia Attorney General Mary Sue Terry is in a dispute with her local school board, which has asked her to stay off of school board property and not attend meetings without prior approval.

    The chairman of the Patrick County school board wrote Friday in a letter to Terry that she “barged” into a closed meeting Thursday with a group of people “and proceeded to totally disrupt the meeting.”




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    Ronnie N. Terry, the board chairman, no relation to Mary Sue Terry, writes that because of the actions, that the former attorney general is not to come onto school board property or attend board meetings “without the express prior written approval of either the chair of the school board or the superintendent.”

    “Should you come onto school property without such written approval, you will be charged with trespassing,” he writes.

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    Nothing but ther best

    to represent the Virginia Democratic party. Thank God her bid to be governor failed miserably!

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    From an open meetings standpoint, I doubt that the board has this authority to keep people from attending meetings. They'll need a court order.

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    I don't think they can enforce that either but I thought she died. Maybe they should drive a stake through her heart (If they can find it) instead of writing her letters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I don't think they can enforce that either but I thought she died. Maybe they should drive a stake through her heart (If they can find it) instead of writing her letters.
    Maybe she had in her will to be wheeled into the meetings

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    Doubt also that she can be excluded from open meetings, if she follows the rules and is not disruptive.

    Closed meetings are a different matter though.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Doubt also that she can be excluded from open meetings, if she follows the rules and is not disruptive.

    Closed meetings are a different matter though.
    One is not supposed to be in closed sessions for sure. But you want to keep a person away from an open meeting? Then get a court order.

    Odd, I don't think it is any violation of my state's criminal or civil code to barge into a closed meeting ... I'll have to look into that. What hijinks one can do before the legislature makes it an infraction or something.

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    When I attend closed meetings, they are generally behind locked doors. It is just so much simplier that way.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Doubt also that she can be excluded from open meetings, if she follows the rules and is not disruptive.

    Closed meetings are a different matter though.
    Yep!
    We're back on the open Government subject and being allowed to attend meetings is part of t. Just think of the number of times we've attended meetings where we weren't welcome.

    Things like the Richmond CC meetings where they tried to make certain people sign in and certain people like Grapeshot...refused but still attended the meeting.

    The law allows closed meetings for certain discussions and there's no question that if we barged in on one, we'd be escorted out by the police....but I see no way they can ban her from all meetings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Yep!


    Things like the Richmond CC meetings where they tried to make certain people sign in and certain people like Grapeshot...refused but still attended the meeting.

    (e) No member of the public shall be required, as a condition to attendance at a meeting of any such body, to register the member’s name, or furnish other information, or complete a questionnaire or otherwise fulfill any condition precedent to the member’s attendance.


    this is from my states open meeting statues .... i normally just brush my aside into meetings if harassed ... i have sometimes told people to move or i would move them (they always move) to gain access

    I'm involved with a complaint in respect to an open meetings issue (actually 2 cases ~ different agencies too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post

    (e) No member of the public shall be required, as a condition to attendance at a meeting of any such body, to register the member’s name, or furnish other information, or complete a questionnaire or otherwise fulfill any condition precedent to the member’s attendance.


    this is from my states open meeting statues .... i normally just brush my aside into meetings if harassed ... i have sometimes told people to move or i would move them (they always move) to gain access

    I'm involved with a complaint in respect to an open meetings issue (actually 2 cases ~ different agencies too)
    Oh, no. We go into full street drama mode, asking to see the rule in writing, and the authority to write the rule, and asking why all those people (the ones who went up on the elevators while we were bum-rushing the guard stand) got to go in without signing in. We ask that supervisors be brought forth. If and when they show up we start from the begining all over again. One night we were demanding that the list be taken upstairs and all in the audience show ID to be checked against whether they had signed in or not. (They almost fell for that one. What a bunch of maroons!)

    All down on voice recorder and sometimes on video as well. (What? You did not know that Frick & Frack have their own cameraman?)

    We all know the "open meeting" laws - the point is to document that they do not or do not want to follow them.

    Next step is to get teeth in the laws. A law that says you personally pay a fine for violating the law is better than a law that merely says you ought to do things a certain way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
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    All down on voice recorder and sometimes on video as well. (What? You did not know that Frick & Frack have their own cameraman?)

    We all know the "open meeting" laws - the point is to document that they do not or do not want to follow them.

    Next step is to get teeth in the laws. A law that says you personally pay a fine for violating the law is better than a law that merely says you ought to do things a certain way.

    stay safe.
    I believe the only reason I was stopped was because of my age (all of the people that he let pass w/o signing in were younger) and the nice officer wanted to test the Americans_with_Disabilities_Act

    I mean really
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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