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    Blackpowder resctrictions

    I was talking with my state representative the other day, who is a gun lover as well, and we started on a topic I feel is worthy of discussion here.
    Let me be simple with the question that started it all- How often have criminal used muzzleloaders and/or flintlocks in the commission of a crime? Not counting poaching or other hunting violations. Seriously.

    Can't say I ever heard of a bank robbery using an 1851 Navy (not since the advent of smokeless powder). Hell fire any muzzleloader AND a flintlock in a room or other confined space and you just might stand a chance of suffocating. Many years back, and we're talking multiple decades here guys, a buddy and I fired off a small cannon inside a garage. Well, after we got out of the garage coughing gagging and choking and still coughing gagging and choking for a few minutes after, we had to let the garage sit for an hour to get aired out (main door was jammed).

    I can see it now. Drive by shootings using a Springfield Hawken .50. Riiiight. Let's make this more realistic and do the drive by from horse back.

    Ok, just a few of my thoughts, but I feel it's very realistic to be concerned about this after that one nutjob senator (or was he a congressman?) that wanted to restrict blackpowder sales after the Boston bombing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan 5 View Post
    Ok, just a few of my thoughts, but I feel it's very realistic to be concerned about this after that one nutjob senator (or was he a congressman?) that wanted to restrict blackpowder sales after the Boston bombing.

    That was Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, the same person who authored the infamous "Lautenberg Amendment"...I don't think he will be wanting to restrict blackpowder sales anymore...he died June 3 2013.

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    Hmmm. Sux to be him. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest View Post
    That was Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, the same person who authored the infamous "Lautenberg Amendment"...I don't think he will be wanting to restrict blackpowder sales anymore...he died June 3 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan 5 View Post
    ...How often have criminal used muzzleloaders and/or flintlocks in the commission of a crime? ...

    ...I feel it's very realistic to be concerned about this after that one nutjob senator (or was he a congressman?) that wanted to restrict blackpowder sales after the Boston bombing.
    Black powder is still an explosive. I don't think his desire to regulate it further than it already is had anything to do with "firearms." Or am I missing your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Black powder is still an explosive. I don't think his desire to regulate it further than it already is had anything to do with "firearms." Or am I missing your point?
    That's my thinking also. Pretty sure it has to do with black powder being used as a bomb making material. Instead of having to use fireworks like they did regular smokeless powder could be used.

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    I would rather then control the criminals instead of my freedoms.

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    I have heard the argument about felons not having access to blackpowder guns because it makes them commiting crimes easier. What is missed is more often than not felons try to stay away from trouble. Yeah, sure. I know there are those that still break the law and violate laws left and right. BFD. They really are a minority.

    I just cannot concieve the thought or concept that someone s gonna try to hold up a bank with a muzzleloader. And yes that has been claimed in the past. Tell you what. Let's go do a drive by using Kentucky Long Rifles and Flintlocks. It'll be a hoot!
    Might as well do it from a horse carriage, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocWalker View Post
    I would rather then control the criminals instead of my freedoms.
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