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    Get your permit to exercise your first amendment rights

    Listen children and you will hear
    Of Grapeshot's ride to

    .......The Hanover Tomato Festival

    The story later. I'm beat and have 5 hours of video to process....but Grapeshot won the fight.

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    I just finished my first cup of coffee so here are the highlights. No video or pictures yet until I talk to my Lawyer...but soon.

    Grapeshot got there before me and when I realized they were routing traffic through school property, I bypassed it, pulled over, unloaded and put the gun in the trunk. So I wasn't carrying.

    River Rat, Scouser, Devilrobyhohn and maybe a few others showed up, said hello and went their own way. I stayed with Grapeshot. He wasn't asking people to take the stickers but they were asking for them in droves.

    A staff member moved in and so did I with the camera. She said he couldn't hand them out and Grapeshot said he was just exercising his 1st amendment rights.

    A little later the staff photographer moved in and so did I. Same conversation, same result.

    Grapeshot got a tomato sandwich and sat down for a while, then back up at another end of the place.

    A really mouthy staff member in a cowboy hat stormed over to Grapeshot and so did I. He told me to turn off the camera and I said no. Then he started to grab for it and I suggested that wasn't a good idea so he said he was calling the cops. (Maybe a tad more to the conversation)

    Cops huddled with the Hat man and I could hear them through the shotgun mic. They said we weren't doing anything illegal and they weren't getting involved.

    One of the big wheels with the event showed up, talked to the cops and walked over to Grapeshot, so did I. He asked me to turn the camera off and I said no.

    Then he asked Grapeshot to come where it was quieter, I followed and was happy that I was away from the music. Plays hell with the audio.

    He was more reasonable but had some pretty lopsided logic. He said they rented booths to make money for the county and exercising 1st amendment rights without a booth cost them money. Grapeshot wasn't falling for that at all and just refused to budge.

    Finally the fellow said, What if we give you a booth? At that point we'd been there for hours, it was hot and a free booth sounded pretty good. So Grape agreed. Well, the booth consisted of a ten by ten foot piece of land with a chair...but what the hell, it was a place to sit down.

    The whole time, people were gobbling up stickers.

    I need to have a talk with the county before finishing up a story on this, but those are the highlights and if you're thinking it was a little heated......it was.
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    Re: Get your permit to exercise your first amendment rights

    Sounds like good times.

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    I didn't realize it until I played the video, but I do believe the Hatman brandished his finger at me.


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    Yep - was good times. Estimate gave out 3/4 roll of GSL stickers. People were extremely supportive.

    Should have seen the expression on the nice man's face when I said, "If I'd have known that you were going to give us a booth, we'd have brought 10 people

    Think we need to get a booth next year, set up a table w/canopy and a full VCDL spread of goodies + signage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Yep - was good times. Estimate gave out 3/4 roll of GSL stickers. People were extremely supportive.

    Should have seen the expression on the nice man's face when I said, "If I'd have known that you were going to give us a booth, we'd have brought 10 people

    Think we need to get a booth next year, set up a table w/canopy and a full VCDL spread of goodies + signage.
    How much do the cost? Just curious, how much do tables at gun shows cost?

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    post in tomato breakfast thread

    please see my post in tomato breakfast thread or move it for me to here...stickers were hot items
    If you can not move at 1100 fps, then pass me by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    How much do the cost? Just curious, how much do tables at gun shows cost?

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    Haven't asked yet, but doubt it will be prohibitively expensive. Also will then be able to sell merchandise and solicite members, not just raise awareness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedevilrobyjohn View Post
    please see my post in tomato breakfast thread or move it for me to here...stickers were hot items
    Threads have already been merged.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Haven't asked yet, but doubt it will be prohibitively expensive. Also will then be able to sell merchandise and solicite members, not just raise awareness.
    Speaking of tables....If you get the chance, remind Philip there is a NEW gunshow in Warsaw. Next week is the second show. They've told VCDL they have a FREE table there, but no one showed at the last show. That's a rich area for new members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Speaking of tables....If you get the chance, remind Philip there is a NEW gunshow in Warsaw. Next week is the second show. They've told VCDL they have a FREE table there, but no one showed at the last show. That's a rich area for new members.
    Will make a point of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    How much do the cost? Just curious, how much do tables at gun shows cost?

    TFred
    According to this http://www.co.hanover.va.us/parksrec...est/faq.htm#33 it was $125 this year. Do not know what next year's fee will be, but I'm escrowing $10 right now towards an application for 2014.

    Shall we nominate Grapeshot as the one to use this year's application form and submit for 2014 ASAP? (He does have mad PayPal skilz.)

    I propose that any funds received in excess of the actual application fee, up to an amount of $25.00, be allowed for the purchase of a pillow/cushion for Grapeshot to rest his bony parts on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    According to this http://www.co.hanover.va.us/parksrec...est/faq.htm#33 it was $125 this year. Do not know what next year's fee will be, but I'm escrowing $10 right now towards an application for 2014.

    Shall we nominate Grapeshot as the one to use this year's application form and submit for 2014 ASAP? (He does have mad PayPal skilz.)

    I propose that any funds received in excess of the actual application fee, up to an amount of $25.00, be allowed for the purchase of a pillow/cushion for Grapeshot to rest his bony parts on.

    stay safe.
    Second the motion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    According to this http://www.co.hanover.va.us/parksrec...est/faq.htm#33 it was $125 this year. Do not know what next year's fee will be, but I'm escrowing $10 right now towards an application for 2014.

    Shall we nominate Grapeshot as the one to use this year's application form and submit for 2014 ASAP? (He does have mad PayPal skilz.)

    I propose that any funds received in excess of the actual application fee, up to an amount of $25.00, be allowed for the purchase of a pillow/cushion for Grapeshot to rest his bony parts on.

    stay safe.
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    Second the motion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    According to this http://www.co.hanover.va.us/parksrec...est/faq.htm#33 it was $125 this year. Do not know what next year's fee will be, but I'm escrowing $10 right now towards an application for 2014.

    Shall we nominate Grapeshot as the one to use this year's application form and submit for 2014 ASAP? (He does have mad PayPal skilz.)

    I propose that any funds received in excess of the actual application fee, up to an amount of $25.00, be allowed for the purchase of a pillow/cushion for Grapeshot to rest his bony parts on.

    stay safe.
    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Second the motion!
    Put it on PVC's list - feel certain VCDL will pay for it.

    I don't want to be tied down to a booth, prefer to run with the free-range cats - Whoopie-ti-yi-yo
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Speaking of tables....If you get the chance, remind Philip there is a NEW gunshow in Warsaw. Next week is the second show. They've told VCDL they have a FREE table there, but no one showed at the last show. That's a rich area for new members.
    I like free!


    "he started to grab for it [the camera] and I suggested that wasn't a good idea"

    Now that's funny!
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    I wondered when I started this if it should really be in the breakfast thread, but it is a separate and very important matter.

    We have rights which is more than a word, other than the right to keep and bear arms. If we lose one the very foundation is weakened and we are in danger of losing them all.

    We ARE losing them though, a small piece at at time and it's mostly because of inaction on our part. I hear a lot about going along and correcting the matter later. The problem is, if you go along, the damage is done.

    Hanover County is the Birthplace of Patrick Henry, my favorite of our founding fathers. Whenever someone tells me I can't exercise my rights and may be arrested if I do....I remember this part of one of the most moving speeches of all time:


    What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

    Forbid it, Almighty God!

    I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I didn't realize it until I played the video, but I do believe the Hatman brandished his finger at me.

    Man, that guy fight in the civil war? lol

    Handing out stickers .. how cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Man, that guy fight in the civil war? lol
    No the big one before that.

    Never felt the need to explain medical problems - still don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    No the big one before that.

    Never felt the need to explain medical problems - still don't.
    lol ... not interested in any medical issues ... that's a private affair between your doctor and yourself...good luck with any though ..

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    Did you wash that foot before you stuck it in your mouth David?

    If you can't be respectful of your elders, at least respect your betters.

    Grapeshot spent a good 7 hours in 100 degree 80% humidity weather handing out those stickers. What did you do on Saturday?
    Assuming you live as long him, which I seriously doubt considering your mouth...you'll never be half the man he is.
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    Agreed,

    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Did you wash that foot before you stuck it in your mouth David?

    If you can't be respectful of your elders, at least respect your betters.

    Grapeshot spent a good 7 hours in 100 degree 80% humidity weather handing out those stickers. What did you do on Saturday?
    Assuming you live as long him, which I seriously doubt considering your mouth...you'll never be half the man he is.
    but don't hold your breath Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Did you wash that foot before you stuck it in your mouth David?

    If you can't be respectful of your elders, at least respect your betters.

    Grapeshot spent a good 7 hours in 100 degree 80% humidity weather handing out those stickers. What did you do on Saturday?
    Assuming you live as long him, which I seriously doubt considering your mouth...you'll never be half the man he is.
    I fight in the civil war, have a problem with it....
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