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    Thumbs up Colorado town considers licensing bounty hunters to shoot down drones Read more: htt

    The tiny town of Deer Trail, Colo. — barely more than a wide spot on Interstate 70 about 55 miles east of Denver, population 546 — is considering an ordinance that would authorize licensed bounty hunters to shoot down unmanned aircraft violating its “sovereign airspace.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/co...t-down-drones/
    I will purchase a license if they become available. +1 to the citizens of Deer Trail.

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    Cities / towns are not sovereign.

    States are sovereign.

    Every State in the Union should be looking into this.

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    That's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. The town's just looking to make a few extra bucks. Why in the heck would a drone be flying over Deer Trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by got_heat View Post
    That's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. The town's just looking to make a few extra bucks. Why in the heck would a drone be flying over Deer Trail?
    They'll have a drone season ...

    Prices for hotels in the area will shoot up their prices during "drone season".

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    Quote Originally Posted by got_heat View Post
    That's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. The town's just looking to make a few extra bucks. Why in the heck would a drone be flying over Deer Trail?
    Same reason that traffic cameras can record every license plate they photograph with the right software. "Because it's there," is all the reason needed in today's 'we need to watch everything because we don't know if it will be important later' big brother government.

    Being in the middle of nowhere just makes it that much more attractive to individuals wishing to stay out of the all-seeing eye of big government, that means big government has to concentrate even more on the out of the way places.


    You just need the right paranoid mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by got_heat View Post
    That's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. The town's just looking to make a few extra bucks. Why in the heck would a drone be flying over Deer Trail?
    http://www.deertrailcolorado.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/schaffersdthistory

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...ies-for-drones

    I'm starting to like Deer Trail. Seems like a quaint little prairie town. Looking forward to August 3rd. My 25 bucks, plus shipping and handling, is standing by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    I will purchase a license if they become available. +1 to the citizens of Deer Trail.
    Will there be a bag limit?

    Having one mounted will surely change the look of one's trophy wall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Will there be a bag limit?

    Having one mounted will surely change the look of one's trophy wall
    No mention of a bag limit. But a "bounty" of $25 denotes no limit during hunting season. And no season is delineated in the legislation. Though, being a legislative process ya never know what actually gets passed into law.

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    why is a license required? Why not just offer a bounty and be done with it? I see this nothing more then a ploy to increase town funding and gain misguided popularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyras21 View Post
    why is a license required? Why not just offer a bounty and be done with it? I see this nothing more then a ploy to increase town funding and gain misguided popularity.
    Did you visit the sites cited? Did you read the words of the town "elders"? They readily admit that it, the ordinance/law may be illegal, and will likely be nothing more than a symbolic money maker for the town.

    My money is patiently awaiting August 3rd.

    C'mon Deer Trail!!!!

    Vote this into law and accept my money in exchange for a license.....and it better not be a chintzy little piece of paper run of a cheap azz printer either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Did you visit the sites cited? Did you read the words of the town "elders"? They readily admit that it, the ordinance/law may be illegal, and will likely be nothing more than a symbolic money maker for the town.

    My money is patiently awaiting August 3rd.

    C'mon Deer Trail!!!!

    Vote this into law and accept my money in exchange for a license.....and it better not be a chintzy little piece of paper run of a cheap azz printer either.
    By the way, a license give the licensee the permission needed to discharge a firearm where the discharge of a firearm may have previously been prohibited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Will there be a bag limit?

    Having one mounted will surely change the look of one's trophy wall

    I don't know if I'd want to down more than one.


    Field dressing one of those suckers is probably gonna take a considerable amount of time and effort.


    Do they make a call for these things?


    Would sitting in a field of pot be considered "hunting over bait"?

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    I think I'll head on over ..instead of camo to hide me, I would likely wear arab drab so the drone circles to lure him in ...

    http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor...craft-guns.asp

    Pick me up one, it would be a business expense .... any suggestions as to which one to pick up?

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    Many drones fly at 5,000' - some as high as 65,000'.

    What is the maximum range of your ammo?

    Probably won't make any difference when someone proposes to outlaw all ammo capable of damaging a drone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Many drones fly at 5,000' - some as high as 65,000'.

    What is the maximum range of your ammo?

    Probably won't make any difference when someone proposes to outlaw all ammo capable of damaging a drone
    That would depend on the machine .. some 1 mile, others longer (or higher).

    Don't give the anti's any more ammo grape (or crazy ideas ) ....

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    Not to be a wet blanket, but for the most part those drones will be flying too high to be shot at. Its also not really a good idea to be shooting large caliber rifles up in the air, though its sparely populated most rounds fired are going to miss and fall somewhere within a few miles around.

    To really shoot the drones down, you'd need anti-aircraft type systems (canno or missiles plus radar to find and track the drones), which conveniently the government has a monopoly on.

    The only ones you might easily spot and shoot would be ones employed during an op like a raid, at which point you may well be more concerned about the jack boots and their armored cars than a Raven drone buzzing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I think I'll head on over ..instead of camo to hide me, I would likely wear arab drab so the drone circles to lure him in ...
    Wouldn't it be better to convince your worst neighbor to don the arab drab?

    On a more practical point, there's a reason drones haven't exactly been falling out of the skies over Iraq and Afghanistan, despite the fact that AK-47s are ubiquitous. Two reasons, actually. One is altitude. The other is motion. Even if the bullet has enough energy to make it to that altitude, you have to lead it a whole lot more than you think you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griz View Post
    Cities / towns are not sovereign.

    States are sovereign.

    Every State in the Union should be looking into this.
    North Carolina has;
    RALEIGH, N.C. -

    A little-noted provision in North Carolina's budget prohibits police and other government agencies from buying surveillance drones for the next two years, as state lawmakers study the balance between security and privacy.
    http://www.wfla.com/story/23041037/n...es-but-not-all

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to convince your worst neighbor to don the arab drab?

    On a more practical point, there's a reason drones haven't exactly been falling out of the skies over Iraq and Afghanistan, despite the fact that AK-47s are ubiquitous. Two reasons, actually. One is altitude. The other is motion. Even if the bullet has enough energy to make it to that altitude, you have to lead it a whole lot more than you think you do.
    And that's assuming you know it's up there.

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