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    No person should be required to turn their back on a criminal attack.

    No person should be required to turn their back on a criminal attack. We call on you to “Stand Your Ground” and protect the right of the law abiding people to defend themselves.
    Please sign our petition to protect Florida Self Defense laws.
    https://www.change.org/petitions/flo...self-defense-2

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    What validity, merit/benfit will this have w/o wet signatures and contact/verification details?
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    What validity, merit/benfit will this have w/o wet signatures and contact/verification details?
    Like any of these petitions, it's simply an on-line demonstration of sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    What validity, merit/benfit will this have w/o wet signatures and contact/verification details?
    It, like any other petition that is not tied to a specific legal result such as a recall election or ballot initiative, is useful for showing that people are supportive of a position. Were it not for our 2010 open carry petition in Florida, HB-463 would never have been filed. They are highly useful tools that OCDO uses in every state where OC is banned. It was also a great talking point and lobbying tool in Oklahoma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    What validity, merit/benfit will this have w/o wet signatures and contact/verification details?
    It will allow summer soldiers to feel that they have Done SomethingTM.

    Publish the email addresses and phone numbers of every legislator and offer a canned message/script for folks to use. Have a spot for folks to insert their name and ZIP+4 address so the recipient knows the message is from someone in their district if not an actual voter. (As much as a million copies of the same email are not as effective as a million original emails, they still get the message across.)

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    It will allow summer soldiers to feel that they have Done SomethingTM.

    Publish the email addresses and phone numbers of every legislator and offer a canned message/script for folks to use. Have a spot for folks to insert their name and ZIP+4 address so the recipient knows the message is from someone in their district if not an actual voter. (As much as a million copies of the same email are not as effective as a million original emails, they still get the message across.)

    stay safe.
    We have people engage legislators all the time during committee weeks, the legislative session, and when an otherwise actionable issue is ripe. This is all prep for the next session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StogieC View Post
    We have people engage legislators all the time during committee weeks, the legislative session, and when an otherwise actionable issue is ripe. This is all prep for the next session.
    With all due respect, it is a waste of time and electrons.

    If the time is not currently ripe to contact your legislators via email and phone calls, how will they know next session that you were PO'd from now until then, as opposed to knee-jerking to news reports about legislative proposals about issues that nobody seemed to care about until they suddenly made the news?

    Their activity is unrelenting. They use every opportunity to push their agenda. Why do you save it all up until things are "ripe"?

    Not that I care, except that if this horse hockey gets through in Florida it could spread to where I live.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    It will allow summer soldiers to feel that they have Done SomethingTM.
    stay safe.
    This is Truth! Citizenship is a verb. If you want something bad enough you will fight for it, not just sign a petition that will change nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    With all due respect, it is a waste of time and electrons.
    Their activity is unrelenting. They use every opportunity to push their agenda. Why do you save it all up until things are "ripe"?

    Not that I care, except that if this horse hockey gets through in Florida it could spread to where I live.
    stay safe.
    As Skid mentioned the squeaky wheel gets the worm. Email, write, call, visit, tell other people about them. DO something that will benefit the Community. Be Proud of it, Be American and get control of them.
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    Just more people on the NSA watch list...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Just more people on the NSA watch list...
    Chances are good that if they're willing to sign a petition then they're already on the list for something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Just more people on the NSA watch list...
    What happens when there are no more new people to add to the watch list?

    Do they start over and do it again?
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    No person should be required to turn their back on a criminal attack.

    They start adding asterisks. After a certain number of asterisks...

    I think I just got another asterisk.


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