davidmcbeth
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The forms clearly are in violation of the privacy act...does this create a cause of action against DESPP?
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Can people who were forced to supply their SS# on reg. forms sue?
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motoxmann
Regular Member
I believe the real question is who would you report it to, considering its a violation of FEDERAL law.
MagiK_SacK
Regular Member
Just curious what form are you referring to?
Do you have a RKBA association for your state that you can contact? For example we have VCDL here in VA. When the clerks of court in our state try to add requirements to the CHP application, they are a good resource for us to contact to find out the kind of information you are asking. So if you have an organization like that for your state you might try contacting them.
Do you have a RKBA association for your state that you can contact? For example we have VCDL here in VA. When the clerks of court in our state try to add requirements to the CHP application, they are a good resource for us to contact to find out the kind of information you are asking. So if you have an organization like that for your state you might try contacting them.
Rich B
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davidmcbeth
Banned
forms 0788 & 414 of course
davidmcbeth
Banned
motoxmann
Regular Member
One posted w/o an opinion being stated.
I'm sure legality overrides opinion in this matter. and I'm sure rich has intentionally left that type of a reply out for the time being until he knows the truthful and legal answer or has some type of legal update. I know he does a LOT of behind the scenes work on these types of things, and doesn't jump the gun
countryclubjoe
Regular Member
Interesting topic.
SSN is also required for a drivers license.
Same legal principle should apply for DLN should it not?
Best regards,
CCJ
SSN is also required for a drivers license.
Same legal principle should apply for DLN should it not?
Best regards,
CCJ
countryclubjoe
Regular Member
A SSN is the eliminator of privacy. It is a tattoo of your life and we are all guilty of giving it away to freely.
We give it to banks,utility company's, Insurance agency's, IRS,DMV, credit card company's, for employment etc.
WE surrender rights for privileges everyday of our lives via our ignorance. The SSN makes us all branded sheep.
My .02
Best regards.
CCJ
We give it to banks,utility company's, Insurance agency's, IRS,DMV, credit card company's, for employment etc.
WE surrender rights for privileges everyday of our lives via our ignorance. The SSN makes us all branded sheep.
My .02
Best regards.
CCJ
davidmcbeth
Banned
SS# not required here ... for DL
motoxmann
Regular Member
correct.
also, it is not illegal for a government agency to ask for or to mandate your SSN; it is simply illegal to do so without specific clauses plainly visible on the form that is requesting/requiring them, which includes stating whether it is optional or required, and stating who will have access to the number and what will be done with the number.
Adam Cook
Regular Member
Got my state permit today
Walked in (Middletown) stood in line for 30 min. On the application I wrote "All Legal Reasons" and did not include my SSN
I was told the background check was taking a long time and was asked the last 4 of my SSN
Picture, Permit, Done.
Walked in (Middletown) stood in line for 30 min. On the application I wrote "All Legal Reasons" and did not include my SSN
I was told the background check was taking a long time and was asked the last 4 of my SSN
Picture, Permit, Done.
davidmcbeth
Banned
This thread was not concerned with the pistol permit application but on the new forms for reg. of "assault weapons" and magazine declarations.
30 minutes? that sucks ... but better than DMV, right?
Interesting that they took a partial SS#. That don't sound right.
motoxmann
Regular Member
they probably were able to view the SSN on their computer, and just wanted to verify the identity of the person.
or the guy asking wanted it for personal reasons, because the last 4 is all you need in a lot of cases to be an identity thief lol.
Maverick9
Regular Member
'...taking a long time' = clerks lie. They also have a hissy fit if you call them out and insist on correct legal procedure. I have to ask is 'drama queen' part of the requirement for that position? ;-D
davidmcbeth
Banned
Only two types of people at DESPP : liars and big liars