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    Glock made in Austria VS made in USA?

    Is there really any differences between the two besides the markings?

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    Different elves working on different steel in different caves. Some folks swear that they can tell if their tupperwear was made in Austria or Georgia because A, or B, or C is "different". Other folks put tape over the markings and challenge them to say where a specimen was made. I have yet seen/heard of anybody that can consistently tell the country of origin when comparing one against one. Trying to do that when doing "blind" tests with several examplesof each seems to be even harder.

    But anything that came before the current model is either better and less messed up or the new version is vastly improved and worth every extra penny. Pick one and stick to it just so you do not go crazy.

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    Well a Glock is a Glock, dependable as hell but down right ugly as hell. Not a fan of glocks for a number of reasons but you cant beat it in the reliability factor.
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    from what i gather the gen 4 usa made glocks are 100% made in the usa.

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    With official "Made in USA" status, I wonder how long before the .380 models are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zack991 View Post
    Well a Glock is a Glock, dependable as hell but down right ugly as hell. Not a fan of glocks for a number of reasons but you cant beat it in the reliability factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    And when the chips are down, that is all that really matters.
    Agreed they are the AK of the pistol world
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    Quote Originally Posted by zack991 View Post
    Agreed they are the AK of the pistol world
    my spare parts kit for my AR is an AK! Everyone hates on glocks but all my mags and holsters interchange and they're accurate/reliable. Ive got a good looking woman, car and bike...... who cares about the gun?

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    I own a Glock 21 and a Glock 27, both made in Austria. No problems with either and I would never trade or sell them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad98801 View Post
    Is there really any differences between the two besides the markings?
    Have read/also told that the current Tenifer finish on the newer Gen.4 pistols, doesn't wear as well under all conditions as the older finish on Gen.1-3 especially in Afghanistan-but then again...What does??

    Also that this change in finishing might be due to EPA Regulations affecting the use of the older Tenifer finish in the US, contrary to its application for last 25yrs in Europe and as opposed to what's available for use now with the manufacture in the US?

    This, in the same way that the factory installation of Tritium Night Sights on some European weapons can be "somewhat restrictive" due to their own European EPA-style Regulations, as the Tritium is originally sourced from a radioactive material, no matter how small an amount used?

    But at the end of the day, as long as your Glock goes "Bang" when you pull the trigger and need it most, manage to retain their reputation for reliability and service...then you got no worries - Glock customer service has a good reputation, even for some pistols out of warranty? Or if its just need to get finish re-done, you can always use one of the many specialists available or do it yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Different elves working on different steel in different caves. Some folks swear that they can tell if their tupperwear was made in Austria or Georgia because A, or B, or C is "different". Other folks put tape over the markings and challenge them to say where a specimen was made. I have yet seen/heard of anybody that can consistently tell the country of origin when comparing one against one. Trying to do that when doing "blind" tests with several examplesof each seems to be even harder.

    But anything that came before the current model is either better and less messed up or the new version is vastly improved and worth every extra penny. Pick one and stick to it just so you do not go crazy.

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    Skidmark, I think you're confusing elves with gnomes.

    On topic: the one time I handled a USA-made Glock, it felt exactly like the nonUSA-made Glock (I assume it was Austrian?; I don't know much about Glocks seeing as their ergonomics are all wrong for me) other than the fact that it was newer and the owner kept looking at me tensely as though I was going to scratch it by simply touching it and breathing near it.


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    Agreed they are the AK of the pistol world
    I don't know if it is true or not, but there seem to be several rumors going around that the Kalashnikov factory in Izhevsk will soon be producing Glock. Maybe we'll be seeing USA vs Russia vs Austria stampings (interesting to see if that leads to arguments like the USA vs Brazil vs Philippines vs China for 1911 production).
    Here's a link (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...glock-pistols/)

    Again, it may be nothing more than rumor, but what would happen to the reliability of the Glock if more manufacturers stepped in? What would happen if we started having scores of manufacturers, each with their own slightly different tolerances on frames, slides, MAGAZINES? Would we start to have a mil-spec Glock? Would we begin to hear all about how "those unreliable 100 year old gen 4 Glocks jam up as bad as those 200 year old 1911s"?
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    Umm...

    Quote Originally Posted by zack991 View Post
    Well a Glock is a Glock, dependable as hell but down right ugly as hell. Not a fan of glocks for a number of reasons but you cant beat it in the reliability factor.
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    And when the chips are down, that is all that really matters.
    Agreed they are the AK of the pistol world
    Y'all never heard of the Hi-Point, have you?

    Allow me to correct you. A Hi-point is uglier, and more dependable, than Glock. And its dependability, as well as its low-price on the market (Selling between 130$-to-190$), renders it the AK-47 of the Pistol world.

    Sorry to burst y'alls tupperware fetishist dreams, but Glocks do not occupy the entire field of firearm attributes, despite what your 600$ Plastic pea-shooters might lead you to believe.
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    I agree that a hi-point can be reliable, but to say it's equally reliable as a glock is foolish. Hi-point has a LOT of inconsistencies. One can be great, but the next 3 might be crap. Glock is significantly more consistent, as are HKs, SWs, etc.

    Also, anyone still using the slam of plastic pea shooters or any other crap about the plastic frame are hard to be taken seriously. Its not the 80s anymore. Polymer handguns have proven themselves time and time again. Get some new material.

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    i like my SD40 over a glock. the difference of $250 is a big factor in that. two tone coloring. and its just as reliable if not more reliable than my buddies glock.

    14+1 beats 10+1 also


    it comes to personal preference, and glock has a whole sea of fan boys.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Umm...





    Y'all never heard of the Hi-Point, have you?

    Allow me to correct you. A Hi-point is uglier, and more dependable, than Glock. And its dependability, as well as its low-price on the market (Selling between 130$-to-190$), renders it the AK-47 of the Pistol world.

    Sorry to burst y'alls tupperware fetishist dreams, but Glocks do not occupy the entire field of firearm attributes, despite what your 600$ Plastic pea-shooters might lead you to believe.

    til the hipoint has feeding issues its more reliable. my girlfriends has to go back to hi-point to have them fix it. has feeding issues every mag now. glad they come with lifetime warranty

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    To follow up to post #5:

    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...er-g42-pistol/

    Glock is advertising that a small Model 42 will be released.

    The author thinks it will be a line (G40, 41, and 42) of .380 pistols. I'm guessing differently. We already have the G25 and G28 for double stack .380's (they just need to be made in USA), so I don't see a need for three different new sizes of .380.

    My guess is three new single-stacks, 9mm, and .40, and .380.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rapscallion View Post
    Have read/also told that the current Tenifer finish on the newer Gen.4 pistols, doesn't wear as well under all conditions as the older finish on Gen.1-3 especially in Afghanistan-but then again...What does??

    Also that this change in finishing might be due to EPA Regulations affecting the use of the older Tenifer finish in the US, contrary to its application for last 25yrs in Europe and as opposed to what's available for use now with the manufacture in the US?

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    Yes I can confirm my newest gen 4 is worn already just from riding Ina crossbreed for a few months

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    Just keep in mind on firearms that use a Tennifer or similar process, the black finish is not the Tennifer. The ferritic nitrocarburizing process is done prior to the black parkerized finish application. So if the black parkerized finish wears off, it's still protected by the Tennifer underneath. Of course, it doesn't stop the changes in the appearance of your gun if that matters to you.

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    I like a worn gun, it has character to me. Especially a GLOCK. It's just a reliable, accurate carry gun for me so having holster wear marks shows I use my tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD40VE View Post
    til the hipoint has feeding issues its more reliable. my girlfriends has to go back to hi-point to have them fix it. has feeding issues every mag now. glad they come with lifetime warranty
    I've been carrying a Glock ever since I became a handgun owner; I'm happy with its reliability. What I know of Hi-Point pistols is only second hand. I've read that the feeding problems can often be a magazine issue. I would take a look at this:

    http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com...-video-280663/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD40VE View Post
    i like my SD40 over a glock. the difference of $250 is a big factor in that. two tone coloring. and its just as reliable if not more reliable than my buddies glock.

    14+1 beats 10+1 also


    it comes to personal preference, and glock has a whole sea of fan boys.....
    I have a number of 15 rd mags for my Glock 23 so I can experience the joy of 15+1. If I need even more joy, I can choose one of the 22 rd factory magazines for the G22. There are aftermarket mags available of various sizes. A magazine that works in the Glock 22 also functions in the Glock 23. You are correct about personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Allow me to correct you. A Hi-point is… more dependable, than Glock.
    Um, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07
    Y'all never heard of the Hi-Point, have you?

    Allow me to correct you. A Hi-point is uglier, and more dependable, than Glock...
    Uglier? Yes.

    More dependable? On what evidence do you base this claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Y'all never heard of the Hi-Point, have you?

    Allow me to correct you. A Hi-point is uglier, and more dependable, than Glock.
    Actually, living in Ohio I've heard much about Hi-Point. Some of it has even been favorable.

    As to more dependable than Glock, not in my experience. I have personally encountered 3 examples of their products, and was singularly unimpressed. To a gun they were the least dependable firearms I've ever handled and were unable to make it through even one magazine without jamming multiple times.

    I have heard that Hi-Point stands behind them with a lifetime warranty, which is a good thing. I have also heard you generally need it, which is bad. I've also heard if you keep sending them back you will eventually end up with a reliable, functional firearm. To me, that negates the low price - my time is valuable, and shipping isn't cheap. I'd much rather save up a few more dollars and start with a better firearm in the first place.
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