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    who writes stuff for the WH/DOD Sy Fi channel? Blimps used to detect missles? really?

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/natio...siles-20130726


    Don’t Be Alarmed by the Drone Blimps Hovering Over D.C. They’re Here to Stop Cruise Missiles


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    2 drone blimps for the capitol -- none for me. go figure.

    Its a big lie of course ... a blimp is not going to be of any use regarding missile defense.

    They'll say anything to spy on us.

    "Bob, ya know people won't like eyes-in-the-skies" ..

    "Well Phil, just tell them its part of our missile defense"

    "hahahaha they'll have to buy that ~ just because we said so hahahaha"

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    Two blimp tethers intersecting an infinity of D.C. target vectors is no more reasonable than the risks of air-shots so blandly accepted here. "Stupid is as stupid does."

    It's more economic stimulation through FedGov regulation, expending the last of the stored helium to drive its costs up just like buying all the ammo. Or do you think the blimps will be filled with hydrogen? Are tracer rounds still legal or have they been made illegal too?
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    Really, yes,

    A lighter then air aircraft such as a blimp or dirigible can operate at altitudes higher then fixed wing aircraft.

    also when it comes to missile detection there are issues with "line of sight" the curvature of the earth limits radar and communications range. that's why many broadcast radio towers are 1000 feet tall whereas the actual "antenna" is only about 20 feet long.

    This is why the military has "AWACS" those air craft with radar equipment on board, it increases the range of radar detection, of course 4 engine jets like the E-3 burn mucho mucho fossil fuels, so an LTA aircraft at a stationary location can act as an AWAC much cheaper then one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Two blimp tethers intersecting an infinity of D.C. target vectors is no more reasonable than the risks of air-shots so blandly accepted here. "Stupid is as stupid does."

    It's more economic stimulation through FedGov regulation, expending the last of the stored helium to drive its costs up just like buying all the ammo. Or do you think the blimps will be filled with hydrogen? Are tracer rounds still legal or have they been made illegal too?
    I think helium party baloons should be illegal, and the congress people who passed the law authorizing the private sale of the helium reserve should be sanctioned....

    helium is a vital resource and getting more of it may be difficult unless we increase gas exploration significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I think helium party baloons should be illegal, ... and getting more of it may be difficult unless we increase gas exploration significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Really, yes,

    A lighter then air aircraft such as a blimp or dirigible can operate at altitudes higher then fixed wing aircraft.

    also when it comes to missile detection there are issues with "line of sight" the curvature of the earth limits radar and communications range. that's why many broadcast radio towers are 1000 feet tall whereas the actual "antenna" is only about 20 feet long.

    This is why the military has "AWACS" those air craft with radar equipment on board, it increases the range of radar detection, of course 4 engine jets like the E-3 burn mucho mucho fossil fuels, so an LTA aircraft at a stationary location can act as an AWAC much cheaper then one....
    We have satellites for this purpose ... the purpose of these is to take pics of you and me sipping margarettas in our back yards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    David - the time it takes to process and send satellite info to the proper people is too long to deal with an incoming missle. Using tethered ballons to increase the range and line-of-sight advantage they would provide for a radar assembly is a good idea. The blimps aren't meant to interfere with planes or cruise missles the way the old WW2 "barrage balloons" were used. They are just meant to give a "high ground" viewpoint.
    I would think that the processes between a satellite v. balloon is the same -- send a signal via EM radiation (traveling about 3 * 10^8 m/s ~ nothing from balloon to higher satellite).

    So, why do they need balloons? And the balloons are not 10 miles out in the atlantic ... where for missile defense would be more useful, right?

    The balloons are for spying on us ~ I know I have a missile in my pants but it does not have anything to do with national defense.
    Last edited by davidmcbeth; 07-28-2013 at 11:29 PM.

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