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    There really IS a 'gun control playbook'

    There is a ‘gun control playbook’ versus Washington gun owners..and we're up against it!!!

    The firearms community has long quipped about gun control strategies from a “playbook,” but yesterday a major gun rights group discovered that advice from a genuine guide to waging a politically-savvy gun control campaign – produced in part by Washington, D.C. consultants who did research for a Washington State gun control group – is part of that group’s political effort.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ther...ton-gun-owners

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    The "lost" PDF is available at http://www.tbe.org/uploadedFiles/sit...de%20PDF-1.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    The "lost" PDF is available at http://www.tbe.org/uploadedFiles/sit...de%20PDF-1.pdf

    stay safe.
    I see that many of the anti-crowd have already read this, almost like everything they do is pulled from this playbook. I just had to stop reading it half way through.

    Lets all make sure we focus on emotions everyone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    The "lost" PDF is available at http://www.tbe.org/uploadedFiles/sit...de%20PDF-1.pdf

    stay safe.
    My God -- I wish I had the time to fisk the hell out of that guide. Is there a collaborative space where we could post it and multiple folks could contribute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapmonkay View Post
    I see that many of the anti-crowd have already read this, almost like everything they do is pulled from this playbook. I just had to stop reading it half way through.

    Lets all make sure we focus on emotions everyone...
    Therein lies the key to their rubbish. The entire playbook emphasizes "make it emotional" not "make it factual." They know that the actual facts do not support their agenda.
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    maybe Workman should copy the PDF from Skid's link in case someone reads these threads and deletes that link....
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    maybe Workman should copy the PDF from Skid's link in case someone reads these threads and deletes that link....
    If it disappears, I've got it.
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    Re: There really IS a 'gun control playbook'

    A copy of the Chicago written court ordered Illinois license to carry (not) law. Confuse, obfuscate, criminalize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapgood View Post
    Therein lies the key to their rubbish. The entire playbook emphasizes "make it emotional" not "make it factual." They know that the actual facts do not support their agenda.
    Another fact is that every single human activity involves an emotion. (Go ahead, try to think of one that doesn't.)

    Using emotion is part of persuasion. What husband ever succeeded at convincing his wife to go to the races by being bored? People are emotional creatures. There is no special honor in relying only on facts.

    Its our side's failure to use emotion that is helping the bad guys. Hit the right emotional strings, and we can persuade more.

    For example,

    When the anti-gunners whine about guns in schools, an emotional counter might be, "What kind of savage beast wants our children and teachers defenseless against a madman?"

    One thousand murders are not the murderers' fault. "The victims' blood is on the hands of the callous and evil who rendered them defenseless with draconian anti-self-defense laws."

    "Protect your kids. Buy a gun and take a class on armed self-defense."

    "What kind of parent makes their kid prey for a predator later in life by teaching them that guns are bad at an early age?"

    "No guns in schools: because anti-gunners and administrators think pigtails look good with blood."

    "Tommy can't walk--because his parents supported gun control."

    Etc.

    ETA: Join in. Just for practice. Lets make a whole thread of emotional arguments for self-defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapgood View Post
    Therein lies the key to their rubbish. The entire playbook emphasizes "make it emotional" not "make it factual." They know that the actual facts do not support their agenda.

    Thanks for this post.

    I refer to it in my Friday follow-up with kudos to Mr. Smith's work:

    ‘Gun violence prevention’ is ‘gun control’

    Evergreen State gun owners are talking up yesterday’s revelations about a genuine gun control “playbook” and on the Open Carry/Washington forum, one participant answered a fairly common question about whether there is a “pro-gun playbook” that may be used by gun rights advocates.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-...is-gun-control
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    There really IS a 'gun control playbook'

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    maybe Workman should copy the PDF from Skid's link in case someone reads these threads and deletes that link....
    I also have it saved in iBooks.
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    Re: There really IS a 'gun control playbook'

    Thanks for this. Saved to tablet, phone, and thumbdrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombrewster421 View Post
    I also have it saved in iBooks.
    That would be a good thing considering I just tried the link and the message said "Woops Page could not be found". If possible could a page be made on the site so that those of us who did not get a chance to read it might get a look.

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    There really IS a 'gun control playbook'

    Quote Originally Posted by squeezeplae View Post
    That would be a good thing considering I just tried the link and the message said "Woops Page could not be found". If possible could a page be made on the site so that those of us who did not get a chance to read it might get a look.
    The iBooks app will let me email it. PM me your address and I'll send it.
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    WAC members warm up to I-591 effort

    One day after the executive director of the anti-gun Mayors Against Illegal Guns told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that people should run away from an attack or fight with fists rather than use a gun, visitors at this weekend’s Puyallup gun show are standing their ground with ink and dollars, fighting a gun control initiative with one of their own.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/wac-...o-i-591-effort

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    Asinine. If I have time, I just might outline a rebuttal for a bunch of that BS rhetoric. Like "there's no reason citizens need military-style weapons" example. I'm sorry, but if you go through time, citizens have always had military-style weapons.

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    It's not an ignorant resolution to be debated and contradicted, it is the big lie handbook, to to be told often enough that weak minds will believe and remember to regurgitate it. Maybe it is analogous to our Gun Facts http://www.gunfacts.info/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    Asinine. If I have time, I just might outline a rebuttal for a bunch of that BS rhetoric. Like "there's no reason citizens need military-style weapons" example. I'm sorry, but if you go through time, citizens have always had military-style weapons.
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    Advice on how to argue about Background checks from PR [playbook]... John R. Lott

    In this post, I am just discussing five of their comments regarding background checks.
    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2013/0...ackground.html With links to his previously published work on point.

    Another playbook repository http://johnrlott.tripod.com/preventi..._messaging.pdf
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