Sheriff Joe Arpaio requires Deputy's to carry AR-15's 24/7

sudden valley gunner said:

Tools when used government means infringement.

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I guess that would depend on what is being infringed.

If you mean infringing on the ability of criminals to run amok, then I can live with that.

skidmark said:

Maybe because he can get away with extorting money to pay for them?

These area AR-15s, not M-16s with Da Switch. Maybe you need to improve your relationship with the guy at the Sporting Goods department at Wal-Mart.

stay safe.

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Oh, I have the money .... in CT those are banned evil rifles ... our course that's the view of people who wish to control me ...

Black_water said:

Good for Joe.

Any tools he needs to get the job done is fine by me.

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"My country, far right or wrong" did not fly for Goldwater, nor for any of the fascists/comunists/statists before or after him.

Either that or you need to put up "sarcasm at work" signs.

stay safe.

Looks like we in NI beat you guys to it!

TheIrishNationalist said:

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Looks like we in NI beat you guys to it!

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This isn't news to me, but it's disgusting all the same.

As someone who spent 30 years in CT I can tell you that most of you posting against this have it wrong. NJ, VA, CT, NY etc do not have any of the same variables at play that we do here in AZ.

We have parks here that have been put off limits to US citizens because of the violence from south of the border. Phoenix at one point (not sure if it still is) was the kidnapping capital. We have thousands of people invading from the south and everyone who lives here that likes to hike or hunt has run into them. We have signs posted all over the place about smuggling and other illegal activity etc.

Having said that, if I still lived in Ellington CT and cops were arming up like this, I would wonder why. But living here in AZ, where we as citizens are confronted with the problems daily, I have no issue with it at all.

There is a reason why our founders wanted decentralized government, and this is one of them. People in NYC cannot know what people in AZ need to do on a daily basis. What cops need in Rochester is not the same as what cops need in Phoenix etc.

We are at war down here, regardless of what DHS says. Last year alone, I personally ran into several groups of smugglers while I was out in a recreational area, and I am just talking about me. We need a completely different set of rules down here than you need up there.

mjcromp said:

I love this guy!!
Joe Arpaio for president!

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You said it!

Black_water said:

Having said that, if I still lived in Ellington CT and cops were arming up like this, I would wonder why. .

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My FOIA requests with CT towns show that they are arming like this in CT.

They get these guns from the feds for the most part ...free guns free guns (nothing is free ~ the feds will want you to do something for them sooner or later ~ but they don't understand)

So I also wonder why.

Yard Sale said:

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To those saying this has nothing to do with this thread, maybe it was an attempt at illustrating what can & does happen when police use those cool toys they are given. The photo shows clearly that those officers fired to "kill", even though they didn't know who they were shooting at. Luckily they didn't manage to kill the two latino ladies in this truck. Greater fire power in the hands of those without great training and moral courage leads to the greater deaths of innocents. What makes anyone think Maricopa Sheriffs will be any better at NOT shooting innocents? Just saying...

FreeInAZ said:

To those saying this has nothing to do with this thread, maybe it was an attempt at illustrating what can & does happen when police use those cool toys they are given. The photo shows clearly that those officers fired to "kill", even though they didn't know who they were shooting at. Luckily they didn't manage to kill the two latino ladies in this truck. Greater fire power in the hands of those without great training and moral courage leads to the greater deaths of innocents. What makes anyone think Maricopa Sheriffs will be any better at NOT shooting innocents? Just saying...

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Oh, those shooter-cops must have been acolytes of Sheriff Joe--trying to control illegal immigration by targeting all immigrants.

Now some might say they took the word targeting too far.

But, I'll bet Sheriff Joe's internal affairs investigation would find the shooter-cops violated no department policies.

Citizen said:

Oh, those shooter-cops must have been acolytes of Sheriff Joe--trying to control illegal immigration by targeting all immigrants.

Now some might say they took the word targeting too far.

But, I'll bet Sheriff Joe's internal affairs investigation would find the shooter-cops violated no department policies.

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I see what you did there. My point was - those officers clearly could not see who was in that vehicle (that did not even come close to the make & color of Mr. Dorner's - but chose to shoot anyways). If police are going to start taking the tact of "if it ain't one of us "f" it - kill'em all and let the courts sort it out!" Then they should not be shocked when the public starts to shun them. If this can happen in one department, it can happen in others too.

FreeInAZ said:

To those saying this has nothing to do with this thread, maybe it was an attempt at illustrating what can & does happen when police use those cool toys they are given. The photo shows clearly that those officers fired to "kill", even though they didn't know who they were shooting at. Luckily they didn't manage to kill the two latino ladies in this truck. Greater fire power in the hands of those without great training and moral courage leads to the greater deaths of innocents. What makes anyone think Maricopa Sheriffs will be any better at NOT shooting innocents? Just saying...

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I understand that point; but who would like to bet a box of dounuts that these two cops are still on the job even after delaying these ladies out delievering papers for some much needed medical care.....anyone?

Citizen said:

Oh, those shooter-cops must have been acolytes of Sheriff Joe--trying to control illegal immigration by targeting all immigrants.

Now some might say they took the word targeting too far.

But, I'll bet Sheriff Joe's internal affairs investigation would find the shooter-cops violated no department policies.

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Actually it had nothing to do with race as the cops that turned the truck into swiss cheese thought the vehicle looked like the ex-cop that was going around killing cops. They didn't even take time to confirm the vehicle nor the people inside.

It was a pre-emptive strike. The cops had no idea who was in the truck but they thought it was the ex-cop that eventually died in the cabin up at Big Bear in the flames.

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I see what you did there. My point was - those officers clearly could not see who was in that vehicle (that did not even come close to the make & color of Mr. Dorner's - but chose to shoot anyways). If police are going to start taking the tact of "if it ain't one of us "f" it - kill'em all and let the courts sort it out!" Then they should not be shocked when the public starts to shun them. If this can happen in one department, it can happen in others too.

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1. The cops are still on the city payroll.

2. The cops know that the average citizen can't fight back in California, as it is illegal to have a gun in California in most cases.