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    Religion and guns.

    Just wondering. Ya think we could make a religion that would require us to carry a firearm, like some religions require carrying a knife, or wearing a turbine? It seems you can not be discriminated against in businesses, in public, or at work.

    I'm thinking, the "Holy order of Piece"
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Just wondering. Ya think we could make a religion that would require us to carry a firearm, like some religions require carrying a knife, or wearing a turbine? It seems you can not be discriminated against in businesses, in public, or at work.

    I'm thinking, the "Holy order of Piece"
    I couldn't bring myself to join Jet Pilots for God because of the requirement to wear a turbine.

    Same for the Church of Hydroelectric Engineers, and the Shrine of Superchargers.

    I understand Sikhs do pretty good with turbans, though.

    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Roscoe Rosecrucians?

    Church of the Holy Target?

    Church of the Reloaders Redemption?



    We'll need a doctrine and some hymns. It goes without saying that the censers will burn ball powder.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Re: Religeon and guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I couldn't bring myself to join Jet Pilots for God because of the requirement to wear a turbine.

    Same for the Church of Hydroelectric Engineers, and the Shrine of Superchargers.

    I understand Sikhs do pretty good with turbans, though.

    Okay, ya got me. That was pretty funny

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    This has already been done, and it's even specific to OC. We just need to make it official.

    http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/122360982

    Wouldn't that be ironic if that disgusting satire came back at them like that?

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    Our Father, which art in FFL,
    Hallowing targets by thee aim.
    Thy ammo come.
    Thy will be done in a range,
    As it is our heaven.
    Give us this day our daily carry.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    As we defend against those that trespass against us.
    And lead used for termination.
    But deliver us from evil,
    So that we need not draw down on anyone.
    For thine is the glock,
    the smith and Wesson,
    The power, and the glory,

    For ever and ever.

    Amen-ition.
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    Religeon and guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Our Father, which art in FFL,
    Hallowing targets by thee aim.
    Thy ammo come.
    Thy will be done in a range,
    As it is our heaven.
    Give us this day our daily carry.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    As we defend against those that trespass against us.
    And lead used for termination.
    But deliver us from evil,
    So that we need not draw down on anyone.
    For thine is the glock,
    the smith and Wesson,
    The power, and the glory,

    For ever and ever.

    Amen-ition.
    Wow... Okay I'm down


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    The Society of Saint Gabriel Possenti as a Prelature and Personal Ordinariate.

    http://www.gunsaint.com/ The catholic conception of saint is quite a bit narrower than the protestant.

    An example of a prelature is Opus Dei featured in Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code. See http://www.opusdei.org/ And there are Military Ordinariates.

    The Society honored my corresponding acquaintance Charl van Wyk, author of Shooting Back: The Right and Duty of Self-Defense

    http://www.gunsaint.com/vanwyk.asp

    http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Back-.../dp/0979045118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Roscoe Rosecrucians?.
    A quick count shows more than two dozen groups studying Rosicrucianism, so I am sure that among them will be found 'heretics'. The common Rosicrucian-ist is a peace-nik.

    I attended summer-school at Rosicrucian (AMORC) Park in San Jose, near my childhood home, through elementary school. Their Peace Garden is more recent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian_Park
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    Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

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    On A hill far away stands an old rugged range
    That's unused and littered with brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911er View Post
    On A hill far away stands an old rugged range
    That's unused and littered with brass.
    The Old Rugged Cross
    On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
    The emblem of suffering and shame;
    And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
    For a world of lost sinners was slain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    This has already been done, and it's even specific to OC. We just need to make it official.

    http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/122360982

    Wouldn't that be ironic if that disgusting satire came back at them like that?
    but you can only carry a S&W 586 plus (remember at the end when she kills everyone with a "7 shot revolver" )
    how am I supposed to afford to join this "church" would my 586 plus be tax exempt under a "ministry of religion" write off.....
    they love our milk and honey, but they preach about some other way of living, when they're running down my country man they're walkin' on the fightin side of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    This has already been done, and it's even specific to OC. We just need to make it official.

    http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/122360982

    Wouldn't that be ironic if that disgusting satire came back at them like that?
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    Re: Religion and guns.

    I am already a member of The Congregation of The Enlightened Pistolero (COTEP for short).

    Unfortunately we don't have any rules other than you must like (preferably own) Dan Wesson guns, and we aren't technically a religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    but you can only carry a S&W 586 plus (remember at the end when she kills everyone with a "7 shot revolver" )
    how am I supposed to afford to join this "church" would my 586 plus be tax exempt under a "ministry of religion" write off.....
    I am an ordained minister, you'd be a deacon I figure. I'd vouch for ya.

    The Church of Holy $#!^?
    The Ministry of Independence?
    ....


    After service we would go to the congregation owned range, in the back of the church building.
    Have pot luck and target practice.... Hmmmm.... If we put our heads together I am sure we could come up with an official religious script.

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    And all this time I thought that the only true church is the Powerhouse Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light!
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    There already is such a religion although few who claim to be adherents really follow it. The name? Christianity.

    Check out Luke 22:36.

    And, yes, I do appreciate the humor in this thread.
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    I am looking for a church that mandates that you openly carry a firearm to belong to it, that way my work can not discriminate against me carrying a firearm while at work, because that would be discrimination based on religious preference. That would be against the law. I wonder how schools, courts, post offices, and especially local business would handle that.
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    If we can get it official, you can sign me up. Can I have an amen, and pass the ammunition!
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    Nobody will take us seriously unless we have a martyr.

    Volunteers?

    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    Nobody will take us seriously unless we have a martyr.

    Volunteers?

    Uh, what do I have to do to qualify? I OC'd without issue at the Woodland Park Zoo, and The Museum of Flight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Our Father, which art in FFL,
    Hallowing targets by thee aim.
    Thy ammo come.
    Thy will be done in a range,
    As it is our heaven.
    Give us this day our daily carry.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    As we defend against those that trespass against us.
    And lead used for termination.
    But deliver us from evil,
    So that we need not draw down on anyone.
    For thine is the glock,
    the smith and Wesson,
    The power, and the glory,

    For ever and ever.

    Amen-ition.
    This completely floored me. Great job! Very creative.
    Since we are writing the prayers and what-not, I think I have a candidate for the hymn book: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-h-Wx08kw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    SNIP...Church of the Holy Target?

    Church of the Reloaders Redemption?


    We'll need a doctrine and some hymns. It goes without saying that the censers will burn ball powder.
    I like the ring to both of those names. We can vote on it later.
    I posted a link to a possible hymn above, and I may have found another, more somber one. Enjoy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww5H8_2QAyg

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