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    TX:Come and Take It means to Restore Open Carry Protections

    Some people may not know that the Texas revolution for independence against dictatorial rule, like the American revolution, started with an attempt to disarm the citizens.

    When the upstart government of Santa Anna, who had taken over the Mexican state in a coup, tried to take a small cannon that the citizens of Gonzales, Texas had for defense against hostile indians, the citizens put into English the famous Greek phrase of the Spartans, Molon Labe, and said:

    Come and take it!

    One of the flags at the recent open carry demonstration in Kingwood, a Houston suburb

    It has been taken as the moniker in Kingwood, Texas by an open carry group determined to restore and defend their rights under the Second Amendment and the Texas Constitution. The original Texas declaration of rights of 1836 and the constitution of 1845 had strong right to keep and bear arms protections. From the 1836 declaration of rights:

    "Every citizen shall have the right to bear arms in defence of himself and the republic."

    and the 1845 Texas Constitution:

    "Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defence of himself and the State."


    Texas sided with the Confederacy in the War between the States, or Civil War, if you prefer. They lost, and the carpetbagger government created a new Texas Constitution in 1869. That Constitution gutted the right to keep and bear arms.

    "Every person shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the state, under such regulations as the legislature may prescribe."


    In 1872 and 1873, Texas voted out the carpetbagger government. The governor begged the federal government for troops to keep him in power, but none were sent. He fled the governor's mansion as an impromptu militia of armed citizens advanced on it.

    The post reconstruction Texas approved of a new Constitution in 1876. It had stronger protection of the right to keep and bear arms , but left in a crucial loophole for the legislature. It provided that the legislature could regulate the wearing of arms with respect to fighting crime.

    "Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defence of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power by law to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime."

    The legislature did not repeal the reconstruction ban on the carrying of arms, and the courts refused to invalidate the law under the 1876 Constitution. The law was widely used to disarm former slaves and others out of favor with the local authorities. Democrats would control Texas for over a century.

    With the Republican revolution of 1994, after decades of abuse of the prohibition on bearing arms on the person, the legislature passed a restrictive shall issue concealed carry law, which has been incrementally improved.

    In 2007 Texas codified "travel" to mean any time you were in your vehicle. Texans could now carry a handgun in their vehicles without a permit, but the handgun had to be concealed.

    Texas is one of only six states that forbids the open carry of handguns.


    Rest of article with pictures at the link below:
    http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/08...o-restore.html

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    Thanks for posting. I'm trying to figure out ways to advocate open carry in Texas. In my opinion, right now, right after our open carry bill has died, is the time to be advocating it the loudest, non-stop, for the next year+ until we can introduce another bill. It's one thing to tell someone, out of the blue, hey, there is an open carry bill that needs our support right now or it will die, and then them have to make a decision on the fly what to do, if anything at all. It's another thing to discuss the issue with them over the course of over a year, and then say, "here's what we've been working for, let's do it," when they've already decided their stance and made a commitment to support.

    Other than talk about it, I'm not sure what else is the best form of advocacy. Maybe organize some empty holster protests?

    Maybe it needs to go further than simple advocacy, though. Perhaps we need to be checking who all of our representatives are, and map out who the problematic members are, and advocate for their replacement in the legislature. It's my understanding that the open carry bill that was introduced was largely shut down by a single individual.

    Here's a wiki on the confrontation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gonzales
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    At the link, the article has imbeded links to Come and Take It organizaitons in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Thanks for posting. I'm trying to figure out ways to advocate open carry in Texas. In my opinion, right now, right after our open carry bill has died, is the time to be advocating it the loudest, non-stop, for the next year+ until we can introduce another bill. It's one thing to tell someone, out of the blue, hey, there is an open carry bill that needs our support right now or it will die, and then them have to make a decision on the fly what to do, if anything at all. It's another thing to discuss the issue with them over the course of over a year, and then say, "here's what we've been working for, let's do it," when they've already decided their stance and made a commitment to support.

    Other than talk about it, I'm not sure what else is the best form of advocacy. Maybe organize some empty holster protests?

    Maybe it needs to go further than simple advocacy, though. Perhaps we need to be checking who all of our representatives are, and map out who the problematic members are, and advocate for their replacement in the legislature. It's my understanding that the open carry bill that was introduced was largely shut down by a single individual.

    Here's a wiki on the confrontation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gonzales
    If you go to the link, you will find ways to connect with other like minded individuals in Texas. These organizations are making a difference, educating the public and police by holding demonstrations and supporting each other.

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