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    thoughts on OC demonstrations

    No one likes an *******, especially an ******* with a rifle and a camera. I try not to bait the police, I rather not have them in my life beyond a personal relationship. However, rights are rights, and as Americans we have a Second Amendment right to bear arms, which unless you’ve been asleep for the last two years I agree with.
    See the rest and post your thoughts when you have seen it.
    http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/right-to...emonstrations/
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    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    Re: thoughts on OC demonstrations

    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    No one likes an *******, especially an ******* with a rifle and a camera. I try not to bait the police, I rather not have them in my life beyond a personal relationship. However, rights are rights, and as Americans we have a Second Amendment right to bear arms, which unless you’ve been asleep for the last two years I agree with.
    See the rest and post your thoughts when you have seen it.
    http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/right-to...emonstrations/
    Note *** Raggs is "quoting" Mr. Noir above. This said, I hope this shows a change in the NRA's views on gun (civil) rights in general. I like that he used a picture from the Birmingham, MI open carry protest in his article. My assumption is, he thinks it was a demonstration of "good people" with guns. It was, and brings back fond memories.

    ETA - There will be a HUGE (hopefully) demonstration / event at the state capitol in Lansing on October 9th. I urge you to attend. The only way MI law will change, is with your help.

    See thread for details.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=116447
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    No one likes an *******, especially an ******* with a rifle and a camera. I try not to bait the police, I rather not have them in my life beyond a personal relationship. However, rights are rights, and as Americans we have a Second Amendment right to bear arms, which unless you’ve been asleep for the last two years I agree with.
    See the rest and post your thoughts when you have seen it.
    http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/right-to...emonstrations/
    That's too bad ... I can be an a***hole with a rifle and camera .... I ain't changing for that guy.

    Just walking around ain't baiting the police .... they make their own bait and come a swimming around.

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    i'm glad to hear someone associated with the NRA be so reasonable about this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    That's too bad ... I can be an a***hole with a rifle and camera .... I ain't changing for that guy.

    Just walking around ain't baiting the police .... they make their own bait and come a swimming around.
    Baiting the police is the best way to find the criminals. I mean after all, its their #1 technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    That's too bad ... I can be an a***hole with a rifle and camera .... I ain't changing for that guy.

    Just walking around ain't baiting the police .... they make their own bait and come a swimming around.
    I missed the section where he said you couldn't do it, he simply gave his opinion that one should not be an a***hole with a rifle and camera. If you want to be that person go for it.
    My reasons to OC
    1. to raise awareness of the legality of open carry in Michigan
    2. To raise awareness that good people carry guns
    3. A deterrent to people so that I won't be targeted
    4. Because it's more comfortable than CC in most situations
    5. Because I can and want to
    6. Because it's perfectly legal
    7. Self defense

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    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...derly-conduct#

    In Texas if someone complains about OC it's disorderly?????........ We shall see what the courts think.
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    Re: thoughts on OC demonstrations

    Kind of shatters the myth of Texas being a good place for gun owners. I would hate to not be able to OC my handgun daily. If I lived there I'd be forced to OC a long gun or hide the fact I'm armed. Florida is almost as bad, just provides some limited exceptions that Texas doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    I missed the section where he said you couldn't do it, he simply gave his opinion that one should not be an a***hole with a rifle and camera. If you want to be that person go for it.
    It's simply impossible to do this. You can stand there, law-abiding ALL DAY LONG and nothing will happen just because of your own actions. It takes a person who is overly entitled, testosterone-driven, and ignorant of the law, and that person is usually wearing a badge.

    I mean they can't even get along with each other (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-SynJskIPQ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/socie...derly-conduct#

    In Texas if someone complains about OC it's disorderly?????........ We shall see what the courts think.
    But but but all the republican neocon hacks like hannity and company would have us worship Texas. I'd take liberal Pennsylvania's gun laws any day of the week over Texas.

    In fact, Northern New England, Washington, Missouri, Kansas, Idaho, and Virginia crap on Texas.

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    Re: thoughts on OC demonstrations

    Now, now, we don't want to hurt the feelings of friends in Texas. They have great pride in their state even if their gun laws are a bit whacko

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Now, now, we don't want to hurt the feelings of friends in Texas. They have great pride in their state even if their gun laws are a bit whacko

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJEwrw4VEls
    Just FYI, I've heard that said about Michigan too.
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    Re: thoughts on OC demonstrations

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Just FYI, I've heard that said about Michigan too.
    Me too hah hah. The same can be said of AZ also, we've got a few "quirky" ones ourselves.
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    Score one for us in the Birmingham picture. I know that tall handsome guy in the tan glock hat. Funny enough he ended up dating one of the reporters that interviewed him that day.
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    Re: thoughts on OC demonstrations

    Quote Originally Posted by ken243 View Post
    Score one for us in the Birmingham picture. I know that tall handsome guy in the tan glock hat. Funny enough he ended up dating one of the reporters that interviewed him that day.
    Gotta love a good win-win story! +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken243 View Post
    Score one for us in the Birmingham picture. I know that tall handsome guy in the tan glock hat. Funny enough he ended up dating one of the reporters that interviewed him that day.
    I was there as well. It really was a great turnout! Good job with the reporter and did you get your AR built yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post
    Kind of shatters the myth of Texas being a good place for gun owners. I would hate to not be able to OC my handgun daily. If I lived there I'd be forced to OC a long gun or hide the fact I'm armed. Florida is almost as bad, just provides some limited exceptions that Texas doesn't.
    I lived in El Paso for awhile and chose not to open carry a firearm. Texas law provides a defense for open carry of a long gun but you could still get charged its a little confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHCGRPR45 View Post
    I was there as well. It really was a great turnout! Good job with the reporter and did you get your AR built yet?
    Yeah, It was assembled the next day. Many more have been built since which required upgrading to a bigger safe.
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    SaaaaWeet! Pictures or it didn't happen!
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