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    Living in VA but working in MD?

    Hi all,

    I just got a great new job with a company in Linthicum, MD but live in Fairfax. The commute is about an hour on a good day. I already told everyone that living in MD is out of the question for me and I don't have the luxury to say no to this opportunity since it's my first real job out of college. I just want to get some insight from some folks here who live in VA but may work in MD. I've been studying up on MD gun laws and they seem quite ridiculous. I honestly don't even know if I am allowed to keep my firearm in the trunk and unloaded while on that side of the water. Should I even risk it? What do you guys do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by george11c View Post
    Hi all,

    I just got a great new job with a company in Linthicum, MD but live in Fairfax. The commute is about an hour on a good day. I already told everyone that living in MD is out of the question for me and I don't have the luxury to say no to this opportunity since it's my first real job out of college. I just want to get some insight from some folks here who live in VA but may work in MD. I've been studying up on MD gun laws and they seem quite ridiculous. I honestly don't even know if I am allowed to keep my firearm in the trunk and unloaded while on that side of the water. Should I even risk it? What do you guys do?
    You're not allowed to keep it in your trunk unless you"re just "Passing through"...That doesn't include stopping to go to work.
    Leave it at home. Mary Land is a pretty unforgiving place.

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    And, Maryland State Police have been known to stop cars with VA plates on a traffic violation pretext so they could fish for the occasional Virginian who forgot to leave his gun at home.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Right, this is eye opening. Good ole People's Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    And, Maryland State Police have been known to stop cars with VA plates on a traffic violation pretext so they could fish for the occasional Virginian who forgot to leave his gun at home.
    Can you give me confirmed examples of this phenomenon? I live in Alexandria and travel at least once a week back into Maryland and into Baltimore, passing and being passed by many State Troopers and Baltimore City Police. I have VA plates, the big orange GSL sticker on my rear hatch, and the NRA Life Member on my rear window. I've never been stopped nor, as far as I can tell, even looked at hard... So I'm curious if the phenomenon you mentioned is real or just an urban legend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    Can you give me confirmed examples of this phenomenon? I live in Alexandria and travel at least once a week back into Maryland and into Baltimore, passing and being passed by many State Troopers and Baltimore City Police. I have VA plates, the big orange GSL sticker on my rear hatch, and the NRA Life Member on my rear window. I've never been stopped nor, as far as I can tell, even looked at hard... So I'm curious if the phenomenon you mentioned is real or just an urban legend.
    A few examples a few years ago. Can't remember where I saw them.

    If they're still doing it, all it takes is a pretext. Speed. Improper lane change. Light burned out.

    Of course, if you don't consent to a search and/or don't have a gun in the car, it doesn't matter.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    Can you give me confirmed examples of this phenomenon? I live in Alexandria and travel at least once a week back into Maryland and into Baltimore, passing and being passed by many State Troopers and Baltimore City Police. I have VA plates, the big orange GSL sticker on my rear hatch, and the NRA Life Member on my rear window. I've never been stopped nor, as far as I can tell, even looked at hard... So I'm curious if the phenomenon you mentioned is real or just an urban legend.
    Check the Maryland Shall Issue site. I only go there occassionally so do not keep current, but a few years ago Virginia drivers were getting stopped for both pretext and legitimate reasons that flowed into "You aren't carrying anything illegal, are you?" and "Would you mind if I just looked?"

    Temporary custodial detention for the purpose of issuing a traffic citation ends when the cop gives you your copy. Do not bother asking if you are free to go or not - if the cop thinks not he will let you know. Be sure to use your turn signal when entering the highway, and to allow a safe distance for merging into traffic.

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    Knowing all of this now, I know to be especially cautious with my DTOM plates and bumper sticker. It's always wise to go on the cautious side. Sidearm stays at home. Now lets move on to Tasers...

    I keep reading flip flopping things on different forums and Google about the legality of them in the state. An individual wanting to have the ability to more effectively defend themselves could be equipped with a M26C. I myself have one and am wondering about the legality of this. My job is in Anne Arundel county which does allow them. But passing through other counties and cities on the way back to VA could be a different story. Just throwing a theoretical out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george11c View Post
    Hi all,

    I just got a great new job with a company in Linthicum, MD but live in Fairfax. The commute is about an hour on a good day. I already told everyone that living in MD is out of the question for me and I don't have the luxury to say no to this opportunity since it's my first real job out of college. I just want to get some insight from some folks here who live in VA but may work in MD. I've been studying up on MD gun laws and they seem quite ridiculous. I honestly don't even know if I am allowed to keep my firearm in the trunk and unloaded while on that side of the water. Should I even risk it? What do you guys do?
    If you don't mind me asking, I'm hard-pressed to imagine Maryland has anything better than Virginia, especially job opportunities. What is your field?

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    All the advice you have gotten is excellent. MD Statute 4-203 prohibits the transportation of handguns except in very narrow set of circumstances, ie. range trips, gun shop, organized shooting event, etc. Do not leave your firearm in your vehicle. Since you are making MD a destination, you will have no FOPA protections either. And never consent to a search of your vehicle. Loaded magazines are ok as long as thgey are not inserted into the firearm.

    Long guns are not included in the transportation statute, so they can be in your vehicle, but they must be unloaded too.

    MD sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, I'm hard-pressed to imagine Maryland has anything better than Virginia, especially job opportunities. What is your field?

    TFred
    My field is in software development. I've interviewed many time in Virginia but have never gotten an offer. Unfortunately, being fresh out of college I don't have the luxury to pick and choose my employer so when I got the offer I jumped at it right away. I don't plan to be there forever. Just get experience and then find a position in VA. Every time I pass the Welcome to Virginia sign, I breathe a sigh of relief. It just feels different in MD knowing the laws, it just feels more oppressed. But I have to take it for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george11c View Post
    My field is in software development. I've interviewed many time in Virginia but have never gotten an offer. Unfortunately, being fresh out of college I don't have the luxury to pick and choose my employer so when I got the offer I jumped at it right away. I don't plan to be there forever. Just get experience and then find a position in VA. Every time I pass the Welcome to Virginia sign, I breathe a sigh of relief. It just feels different in MD knowing the laws, it just feels more oppressed. But I have to take it for now.
    Check your inbox!

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    Frankly, I wouldn't bother taking an interview in MD. I will do nothing to support that state economically, culturally, or in any other way.

    It's a lifelong boycott of all things Mary Land.

    When a business opens up shop in that state, I can only assume it's run by a bunch of frat boys and isn't a serious outfit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george11c View Post
    My field is in software development. I've interviewed many time in Virginia but have never gotten an offer. Unfortunately, being fresh out of college I don't have the luxury to pick and choose my employer so when I got the offer I jumped at it right away. I don't plan to be there forever. Just get experience and then find a position in VA. Every time I pass the Welcome to Virginia sign, I breathe a sigh of relief. It just feels different in MD knowing the laws, it just feels more oppressed. But I have to take it for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Check your inbox!
    Just realized you're sort of new to the forum... so you may not realize that I meant check your Private Message inbox here on OCDO! Click the "Notifications" link at the top of the page.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post
    Just realized you're sort of new to the forum... so you may not realize that I meant check your Private Message inbox here on OCDO! Click the "Notifications" link at the top of the page.



    TFred
    He's in computers.

    That would be like me telling you to check the end-shake on your cylinder. And, then come back and clarify that I wasn't talking about your engine.
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    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by george11c View Post
    My field is in software development. I've interviewed many time in Virginia but have never gotten an offer. Unfortunately, being fresh out of college I don't have the luxury to pick and choose my employer so when I got the offer I jumped at it right away. I don't plan to be there forever. Just get experience and then find a position in VA. Every time I pass the Welcome to Virginia sign, I breathe a sigh of relief. It just feels different in MD knowing the laws, it just feels more oppressed. But I have to take it for now.
    Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I am a retired software engineer and I know there are times when you take positions where you don't wish to because that is what is available at the time you're in the market. Common in the contracting end of the business, unless you're a independent with a broad range of skills and experience.

    Get your two years in the real world then start looking seriously for positions here in Virginia. And good luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I am a retired software engineer and I know there are times when you take positions where you do wish to because that is what is available at the time you're in the market. Common in the contracting end of the business, unless you're a independent with a broad range of skills and experience.

    Get your two years in the real world then start looking seriously for positions here in Virginia. And good luck to you.
    If I don't find something else soon, this is definitely what I plan to do. I'll do my time in the People's Republic and then once I get experience, get a job here in VA. Perhaps with a little help from connections, I can land a job here in VA sooner than that. For now though, I'll take what I can get. What I will ensure, is that Maryland get not a penny of my income taxes. I will file and exemption form immediately so I don't have to pay taxes to the PRM.

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