City of Oberlin Parks Open Carry Education Event, 7 Sep and 15 Sep

I'm thinking about coming, but will have a +1. Does anyone have room for two people from Cincinnati?

BB62 said:

I'm thinking about coming, but will have a +1. Does anyone have room for two people from Cincinnati?

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Well, if you can drive to Fairborn, we can carpool from there, picking up MWSY in Columbus.


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What time would we need to meet you? Please PM me an address.

Thanks.

Wait a minute - ride with that lunatic MWSY?? NO WAY Jose!

You should be more worried about me.

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/...g-gun-legalization-gathering-in-oberlin-park/

Expect for the people against us to be bringing this up tomorrow. But the police chief agrees that the councilman's reaction was unfounded and a little exaggerated. Btw, a "clip", really? Lol

The reply is simple: It is not the carry that should be banned. It is the leaving behind of unattended ammunition that should be unlawful.

Making the carry unlawful is the equivalent of having a person in a running car parked in the parking space in front of the bank being unlawful because it could be part of a bank robbery. No. It is the bank robbery that is the violation of others and that should be illegal.

Making an act illegal because it could lead to another act that should be illegal is silly. Such silly thinking could lead to making anything illegal. After all, if visiting the park were illegal, no one could leave behind a magazine! Let's ban visiting parks!

What happened was wrong (not illegal, as it turns out, but still wrong). We should all take responsibility for it and not deny its wrongness. We should however point out that if an act were to be made illegal, it should be the act of leaving unattended ammunition in the park that be made illegal, not the carry.

Let he who has done nothing unsafe, ever, cast the first aspersion!

The bus from SW Ohio will be leaving the Fairborn area (either from the Kauffman terminus or the 235/675 terminus, TBD) at 0700, arriving at the Galloway station between 0800 and 0830, departing within minutes for the Oberlin destination. It is the train they call the City of New Orleans. It'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done. (Well, 350.)

BTW, where on Park Street is the Park? My GPS does not know that park. TIA.

eye95 said:

BTW, where on Park Street is the Park? My GPS does not know that park. TIA.

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The address for the Park Street Park is:
59 South Pleasant Street Oberlin OH 44074

Go figure,,,,

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Best of luck to all of you, I hope turnout is huge!

My wife won't let me post about joking about leaving large amounts of stray loaded magazines in my wake.



Yes. That's right.

MyWifeSaidNo

Jordysoso said:

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/...g-gun-legalization-gathering-in-oberlin-park/

Expect for the people against us to be bringing this up tomorrow. But the police chief agrees that the councilman's reaction was unfounded and a little exaggerated. Btw, a "clip", really? Lol

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“I called (Kuzawa) and pointed it out to him, and said that’s why we didn’t want guns in the park, because accidents can happen,” [Councilman Bryan Burgess] said.

So, is he going to ban cars in the city?

color of law said:

So, is he going to ban cars in the city?

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Or sporting equipment?
Or farm machinery?
Or bathtubs and shower stalls?

Oh, wait. We're talking about liberals here. Ignore that last one.

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http://s979.photobucket.com/user/JSlack7851/slideshow/Oberlin 2013

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It's hard to get a read from this--would you say the "pro" crowd outnumbered the "anti" crowd or not?

It does look like people on both sides interacted a lot.

There are multiple pictures of a woman with a purple shirt and a blue jacket, making me think she's someone you know, but I see no signs she's carrying.

One "traditional" looking (wood rifle stock) rifle and at least two "EBGs" on the long gun side of the ledger.

Pro outnumbered anti's by at least 5-1. I would have guessed at 75-80 pro and 10-15 anti's.

Great turnout.


http://fox8.com/2013/09/15/oberlin-residents-fight-gun-ban/

By my count, 47 pros. I did not count antis, but would estimate 10-12.

Amazing day. A lot of good and useful interactions with the antis.

One person did drop a bombshell. He said that the repeal would not pass the third vote, but that the ordinance is unenforceable and that we should trust them not to enforce it! Ask Jonathon Norris, Roy Call, Skidmark, etc. about being charged for something unenforceable!

Anyway, this person dropped another bombshell which caused every jaw in the vicinity to also drop: He said that if the repeal passes, the he will run for the board and repeal the repeal. HUGE mistake to say that on tape. He is announcing the city's intent to violate 9.68. That should destroy any immunity for the city should anyone ever be arrested under the ordinance.

We have it on tape. The recording will be uploaded to the 'Net. Transcripts of the errant statement will be posted here. Once I pointed that out to him, he started backpedalling. He realizes that his recorded words just made it legally hazardous for him to follow through with his threat. Just as well. We should rather that the city NOT do anything illegal than we get to nail them for having done something illegal.

Also, look for more news on this later from folks better able to discuss it. But we may have just acquired some HEAVYWEIGHT help in our efforts. Our rallies are making a huge difference. They are grassroots, spontaneous, and networked (rather than directed top-down in a bloombergian way). Folks are finding out about these rallies from OFCC, BFA, Neo Carry, facebook, OCDO, and word of mouth, then just showing up in large numbers from all over the State. (BB62 probably travelled the furthest, about 4 1/2 drive time each way, picking up some passengers along the way.)

I have an eye95 Twitter feed that has not been really used for anything. I am going to start using it strictly to announce rallies everywhere in Ohio, regardless of initial source. If you know of an event that I have not put on the feed, tell me, and I will announce it, updating the details regularly. That is all I will do with the feed, so if you are looking for news on Ohio RKBA rallies, follow the feed, and keep me up to date on rally news so that the feed can be a central clearing house for that news.

Again, amazing day at Oberlin park. I anxiously await the vote tomorrow.

eye95 said:

...BB62 probably travelled the furthest, about 4 1/2 drive time each way...

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And Color of Law too!

It was great to see and talk with eye95 & MWSY at length as well as the opportunity to see and meet new and old contacts.

It was especially enjoyable and enlightening to speak with those from Oberlin who do not see things the way we do. There was plenty of respectful conversation to be had. Great stuff.

One "news" woman was especially despicable - going around and asking multiple people to pull their loaded firearms out of their holsters, then putting them back in, and asking people to drop their firearm on the ground for her "story'. I believe someone from our side got her on audio or video. Disgusting.

It's bedtime for me!

good job

way to go guys. wish i could of made it but my work schedule wouldn't allow it.

BB62 said:

One "news" woman was especially despicable - going around and asking multiple people to pull their loaded firearms out of their holsters, then putting them back in, and asking people to drop their firearm on the ground for her "story'. I believe someone from our side got her on audio or video. Disgusting.

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I hope among the resounding chorus of "No!" and incredulous looks she also got a pointed education on why that would be irresponsible for a LC to do.