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west valley city, salt lake city crime??

jseth

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does anyone know what the crime is like in west valley city and salt lake city? are they safe places?

or places you definitely don't want to leave your room without a firearm?

staying and working here for 2 weeks
 

Cremator75

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My wife's sister was shot and killed in a drive by in West Valley. You just never know where crime will raise its evil head.
 
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Gil223

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does anyone know what the crime is like in west valley city and salt lake city? are they safe places?

or places you definitely don't want to leave your room without a firearm?

staying and working here for 2 weeks
It seems most of the crime in West Valley was within their PD - but I understand their PD was recently consumed by the Unified Police Department (a private corporation). Pay close attention to your driving while there, the UPD officers DO have quotas to meet.
 

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NEVER be unprepared

Except for visiting the anti-gun socialist states on the East Coast and Kommiefornia, there is no place that your should not carry a firearm. There is always a potential of being in a dangerous spot at the wrong time through no fault of your own and it pays to be both vigilant and prepared. There are places in Salt Lake City that I would prefer to be armed such as Pioneer Park (aka: Needle Park). There are places in West Valley City that I would prefer to be armed as well. However, compared to parts of Newark, NJ, parts of Chicago (the Projects), and the North Side of Milwaukee, SLC and WVC are pretty safe.

I will make my case for my statement above using a real world Salt Lake City event: Several months ago, at a popular grocery store near downtown Salt Lake (in a very liberal neighborhood - considered by the locals to be quite safe and crime-free), a person whose sanity may be questionable walked into the neighborhood grocery store and purchased a large knife. He paid for the knife, discarded its packaging, and began stabbing customers in the neck and shoulders while he was at or near the front entrance to the store. Some victims received potentially life threatening wounds and may have perished except for the action of one armed citizen. Just as the bad guy was about to stab yet another person, a female victim, another customer who had just paid for his groceries and was about to leave, and who happened to possess a Utah Concealed Firearm Permit and was armed with a .357 snub nose revolver, bolted to the rescue, pulled his firearm from its holster, drew down on the bad guy, and ordered the bad guy to drop his knife. Realizing that it was probably not a good idea to bring a knife to a gun fight, the bad guy dropped his weapon and was restrained by store employees until police arrived several minutes later. In the mean time, other store employees provided first aid and comfort to the victims until medical first responders took over. Police arrested the bad guy and charged him. The local Police and DA praised the good guy for saving the victims and unknown other victims if the bad guy had not been stopped. The good guy with the gun refused to be identified and simply stated (through Police) that he was just being a good citizen. He was a legally armed citizen in the right place at the right time to stop mayhem and murder.

The moral of the (true) story is clear. Remain vigilant and remain prepared.

Yellow Cat Out-

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Gil223

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Not true at all I live her and can tell you different
Excuse me, but exactly which part was "not true at all"? West Valley PD has had a "questionable" reputation for a couple of decades! Improprieties, illegalities and a general "badge heavy" approach to law enforcement is how they were known.

From the Daily Herald Utah Valley Crime Watch: "SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah prosecutor is calling the shooting of an unarmed 21-year-old woman by police last November unjustified.For months, Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill has been reviewing the killing of Danielle Willard, which triggered an internal investigation by West Valley City Police that uncovered misconduct by the department's now-disbanded drug squad." My "understanding" that WVPD was "recently consumed by the Unified Police Department" was in error - WV is an incorporated city, and therefore entitled to it's own PD. (Best of luck to newly appointed Chief Russo, whose work is definitely cut out for him.)


UPD Police Officers perform a wide variety of police functions, including but not limited to: Crime repression, crime prevention, protection of personal liberties, and service to the citizens of Herriman, Holladay, Kearns, Magna, Midvale, Millcreek, Riverton, Taylorsville, and the unincorporated areas of Salt Lake County. Officers work a variety of hours including day, afternoon, or graveyard shifts, holidays, and weekends. (Their patrol officers were also instructed to write at least one traffic citation per day.)

From the Kearns Community Council:
"The Townships of Kearns and Magna, as well as the unincorporated areas including the Great Salt Lake beaches and islands of Northwestern Salt Lake County, are proudly served by the Unified Police Department."
Congratulations on your "Precinct"! Pax...
 
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Reasonable

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One citation a day? Hardly a money grab quota revenue builder there.

How many violations do you guys see on a daily basis?
 

Utah_Patriot

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The point is overall crime on the west side is not that bad in fact I spend a large amount of time in And around the community.

I can say their is a criminal aspect just as any other town. Anyone can copy And paste a news article but to live in the community and know other good people I can say I could send my children out and not worry about their safety.



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utbagpiper

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A few solid stats from http://www.neighborhoodscout.com:

Utah as a whole has 2.13 violent crimes annually and 31.8 property crimes annually, per 1,000 residents.

West Valley City has 4.46 and 40.69 violent and property crimes annually per 1,000 residents, or twice the violent crime of Utah as a whole and 30% more property crime.

Salt Lake City has 6.46 and 71.21 iolent and property crimes annually per 1,000 residents, or three times the violent crime of Utah as a whole and nearly double the property crime.

SLC and WVC are the two largest cities in Utah and crime rates can vary a lot from neighborhood to neighborhood.

Sandy City is the third largest city in Utah and has 1.36 and 29.34 violent and property crimes, respectively, annually per 1,000 residents.

South Jordan is a smaller, bedroom type community that is still very much in the SLC urban metro area and has rates of 0.53 and 18.72.

Morgan is a rural area in northern Utah with rates of 0.80 and 9.83.

Detroit, as a whole, has rates of 21.60 and 62.21.

Santa Fe, NM has rates of 4.52 and 55.45. Albuquerque has rates of 7.73 and 51.8.

So, compared to other parts of Utah, WVC and SLC are high crime areas. Compared to big, inner-city urban areas in other States, they are pretty tame. They are comparable to Santa Fe and Albuquerque.

But remember, it isn't about the odds, it is about the stakes. And Utah makes it really easy for law abiding persons to carry self-defense. We recognize and honor permits issued anywhere in the nation and with said permit there are very few places you cannot legally carry that you are likely to go. We also have parking lot preemption that protects you from adverse employment action (excepting religious and a few other employers) if you leave you gun locked and out-of-sight in your car, even if parked in an employer parking lot. Even without a permit, you can carry a handgun loaded and concealed in your car; and can carry "Utah/Israeli unloaded" and not concealed in most places so long as you avoid schools.

I am not a lawyer, and so on and so forth.

Charles
 
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